Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Java generics and type erasure Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 02:35:41 -0400 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <9d4c2b16-beb5-40b1-87a2-f03e971efeed@k17g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> <4dde10b0$0$67777$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4ddf0617$0$67777$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <3f7c1f48-f025-48af-b6bd-20463f6651db@e13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com> <4ddf5c23$0$67779$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4de329e1$0$89995$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net IX1MhYTyR+g/LllF8V+TVUjV39SUti5go3wdIi9OHIIbo3TmTwZb83Rw9ySS/CgU/tDuOe1m8rPPjBrYPFOE1qEI142rLfdB+dtqACX+bUvuQM3EQIuxVlfksbjew6aR NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 06:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="O5MMsVkoEPv5gmSY2SDNuYJqdJ/13vs/dnongddNmpHVDt7lkoNGY4ejmPcGr1oNMG8mq9KccL0dvK1cBcoWRvPGCqeUcsZaQBvfHVJd0mPKKZwTVbjCZgrHfVD346ij"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: <4de329e1$0$89995$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> Cancel-Lock: sha1:HLDajPrH6/bH+0TIDo1DHhf7USk= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4719 On 05/30/2011 01:23 AM, Esmond Pitt wrote: > On 28/05/2011 12:22 AM, Lew wrote: >> I said that the >> runtime phenomenon is the static state of generics HAVING ALREADY BEEN >> ERASED SOMETIME *PRIOR*. It's the *static* state to which I refer. > > That static state is created at compile time. It exists prior to runtime. > Runtime may never occur. Ergo it doesn't make any sense to regard it as a > runtime phenomenon. Ontologically speaking. > Generics don't matter at runtime. They matter at compile time. That's that. -- Lew Honi soit qui mal y pense. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg