Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joshua Cranmer Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: tools for programming applets Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:37:13 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <028d2009-98b7-43a3-b02d-83eaa89db79e@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 14:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="bAymlyY9SkaJNa8Tz2rerw"; logging-data="13729"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18oE8BxntWNzUe20FHcuaTOIOfKIk4U/k8=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16pre) Gecko/20110305 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.10pre In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:IDtw35jmYRAP8FArEXT/jYwn+/U= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4452 On 05/23/2011 02:44 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message, Joshua Cranmer wrote: > >> On 05/22/2011 10:17 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>>> JavaScript itself has had no more fundamental changes than Java has had. >>>> As far as I can see, the only truly new things (i.e., not present in any >>>> implementation for some time) were the introduction of functional >>>> methods to Array, i.e., arr.forEach, arr.filter, etc. >>> >>> Functions as first-class objects. >> >> Nope, that's original in JavaScript. > > So are you beginning to understand that it’s not JavaScript playing catch-up > to Java? /me sighs. 1. It's not JavaScript playing catchup. The language itself has had no significant change (I'm pretty sure generators are not part of ES5, only ES:harmony...). 2. The features of the DOM are adding no functionality that Java itself does not have. 3. "Catch-up" does not imply removing features to achieve a convergence of languages. >> How about Swing? > > How about it? That you completely cut off all context of where I explained this. Sheesh, you're getting as bad as Mr.... I can't remember the original text he wrote, but I'm sure this will convince him to drop by ;-) -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth