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On 05/22/2011 08:26 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> Why do you think JavaScript/DHTML/AJAX has grown by leaps and bounds, while
> Java, which in some ways was a pioneer of the dynamic Web, has stagnated?

Why do you insist on bashing Java in a Java newsgroup?

To be fair, none of the technologies you mention has really made "leaps 
and bounds". AJAX, or rather XHR (the underlying technology), itself was 
specified several years back and hasn't been modified (to my knowledge) 
since the introduction of the cross-origin specifications, which is more 
or less incidental to the actual spec. JavaScript itself has had no more 
fundamental changes than Java has had. As far as I can see, the only 
truly new things (i.e., not present in any implementation for some time) 
were the introduction of functional methods to Array, i.e., arr.forEach, 
arr.filter, etc.

The only technologies that have really changed are the DOM, in 
particular the introduction of <canvas>, web storage, and ... I think 
that's about the only major interoperable new thing. SVG doesn't count 
since it's been around for eons, nor does <video> since it's actually 
worthless as no single format will be accepted by >75% of the browser 
market. I'll also leave out CSS changes, since most of those are pretty 
much either pie-in-the-sky experiments or attempting to sanely specify 
what browsers already do.

Now, let me end by pointing out that Java has been able to do all of 
these things for over a decade. That's right, all of these growing "by 
leaps and bounds" is merely trying to get CSS/DOM/HTML up to the same 
level of support that Java has already had since version 1.0. And there 
are still things that Java can do that this approach is having problems 
with--case in point number 1, designing traditional UI (i.e., flexing 
models for layout). Java doesn't need to grow by leaps and bounds 
because it already is a mature, working facility ... unlike the current 
Web 2.0/3.0 stuff.

-- 
Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not 
tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth