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Re: New in Java 7: JLayer

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"Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1PKdnV9XXeKKiErQnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
> "Nasser M. Abbasi"  wrote in message 
> news:ir4om1$qeh$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> <snip>
>
>> What I do not understand is how would doing the whole GUI in
>> Javascript, running inside the browser, would be any better or
>> different than say using Java applets, which is also a GUIcode
>> running inside the browser.
>
> <snip>
>
> I am one of applets' greatest advocates so I entirely agree with you. 
> Applets provide a much more powerful programming environment than 
> JavaScript ever will but have the one drawback of requiring the user to 
> have a JRE installed on their machine.  Some see this as a significant 
> problem and it does prevent them from running on platforms where Java will 
> never be available such as iOS.  However, it's very easy to install a JRE 
> on the fly (except on said platforms) and support for applets will be much 
> better when the new Plugin3 architecture is released later this year. 
> Start-up times will be significantly faster and the new version of JavaFX 
> (2.0) is looking impressive which will just be a Java API.
>
> I love applets and believe they are the most underutilised deployment 
> platform for Java in the history of the language.

Agreed but my 2c says the attitude that has held Applets back the most is 
the either/or mentality. There is *NO* JavaScript OR Applets OR Flex problem 
to be solved! Like it or not the Javascript/HTML/DOM boat has sailed to de 
facto standard(s) and quite rightly so. But Applets Flash/Flex is more than 
welcome to carve out junks of the UI. Sadly the Java purists/elitists hold 
its acceptance back by insisting on ownership of the page/UI.

As far as JavaFX goes, you might as well sing the praises of SilverLight 
:-( Or that java FreeChart bollocks.

Regards Richard Maher 

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