Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: Nslookup Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:08:23 -0400 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 97 Message-ID: References: <9973d98a-f6db-4908-8651-575affbfbdf4@q32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <2pydnQEfsN0cGE7QnZ2dnUVZ8g-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <383dccd4-4e1f-46ac-a098-7767b2ffd543@hg8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net 6AWY8CZgt1G4sCBD8fXy09I0J9OnaFzP4stR5OD7CWtHgeaEQEaITElUMywiRxrIQAEGGmSjDpD8TcBGLCmGUFUyRIUwfhDvaA1du9JalDE+ZRMSv95T1wxfjrvwQJIu NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 14:07:54 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="tRHi4wC5CYVln7RPhb/VJ/llTVaWqYa5z3Dv3AYVTAFe19G0lS8RcjHHxsiBw3CY842sdbuTSEkAN8ZBq0+GNoMnraVPxc17X+9FW367CAZT3bkEBhtd6FLNEFItoLlb"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: <383dccd4-4e1f-46ac-a098-7767b2ffd543@hg8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:XyQ0JP+XGQFcbFwUp8GYj3u2fH4= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4297 comp.lang.c++:5165 Michael Doubez wrote: > Lew wrote: >> Michael Doubez wrote: >>> Lew wrote: >>>> bugbear wrote: >>>>> Lew wrote: >>>>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your question >>>>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not know how >>>>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At least >>>>>> among us practical-minded folk. >> >>>>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, following your "logic" >> >>>> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow programmers. I >>>> believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that you're being >>>> insufficiently helpful. Shame on you if true, because that means you want to >>>> enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help. >> >>> Argumentum ad misericordiam >> >> Misidentification of fallacy. > > So you say. > >> I'd already made the point that it's relevant >> to one of the groups to which the OP posted, namely clj.programmer. > > I know java language is very large but AFAIS os tools like nslookup > are not part of it and the OP's question is not related to > programming. > >> The >> "programmer" part of that means that it's not about the language as such, but >> the skills needed to use it effectively. I had argued that the question is >> relevant there. > > The programmer part uses many skills, each of them can be classified > in its related newsgroup. Nslookup is a os related problem. I may > search in-depth at home and go to my os' newsgroup to ask the right > people and not only to those that happen to be here. > >> The appeal to sympathy is to show that the line was being >> drawn arbitrarily fine. > > So you are basically saying that the sympathy proves something about > the width of the line being drawn. That's basically ad misericordiam. I am saying that I already addressed the question of relevance, and I think that you're being petty and mean to be so rigid. >> Nowhere am I suggesting that the discussion veer from >> the subject of the newsgroup, I only suggest that people not be such >> namby-pamby nitpickers and be so doggedly exclusionary. > >> So while you show off your Latin quite nicely, it's irrelevant. > > That's the name of the sophism classification. I can't help it if it > is in latin. Like the sophism, you are using now: ad hominem > (dismissing what I said because of the use of latin [sic] supposedly chosen > for showing off). Wow, good for you. You parroted my helpful hint that I was using ad hominem. That shows you paid attention when you read my post. Congratulations on your ability to repeat what I said. >>> The reason why the people here are so helpful and the group is still >>> alive is because some people do care enough to keep the discussions on >>> topic. >> >> I don't know where your "here" is, but in this thread I'm arguing against the >> people who are NOT being "so helpful". > > Here is comp.lang.c++ but I expect that OP posted in other helpful > groups. Well, clj.programmer is a bit more tolerant than you. >>> If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question here >>> because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciepes. >>> You would then have to ask elsewhere, which is exactely what the OP is >>> invited to do. >> >> And also the OP is being invited EXACTLY to continue to post "here" for one >> value of "here". > > Well, keep your "here" as comp.lang.java.programmer and please stop > cross posting. Or what? You'll call the Usenet Police? You're being mean and that's not nice. Shame on you! -- Lew Honi soit qui mal y pense. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg