Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: char to decimal Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 12:00:00 -0400 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <92ea64F3avU1@mid.individual.net> <92ft5pFjeiU1@mid.individual.net> <92hu9kFh10U2@mid.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net fd25X3UPz4ERbaFdlje9NX6cYlttxq3rjGa3SdBn6cCYbI9PVs4ZzRxwTrCZ75qkKoAsFlOUX+uiYb05fVNbdg== NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 15:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="9WwbyfECRe1MV+ym//orXCki2CVYWUQ3gp4szf8CFCUYyl+cp7vZzGLCcoxhbSZD68IJ8Rw4lg+mGDtSCXotC6OMYLMBwNEnoGoNGDkY7DmZWZyVbmbdJ5WQW1kAJrJP"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:GlxAKsOWrlV2EmJ/C5j0Y8QKwnY= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:3691 On 05/06/2011 07:48 AM, Andreas Leitgeb wrote: > Lew wrote: >> On 05/06/2011 05:45 AM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >>> English alphabet only >> The English alphabet includes 'æ', 'ë', 'ö', 'œ' and other >> such symbols not included in ASCII. > > I wasn't aware of any particular "English alphabet". There's > however the Latin alphabet, and a subset of it used in > English language. Now, I'm curious about an English sentence > using your particular samples of characters within words. > > Oh, and please don't make it a trivial one, like > "'Ö' is not an English letter." I'll give you references to a couple. Make your own sentences if the ones therein fail to suit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No%C3%B6sphere For the general use of the umlaut, or trema, in English, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trema_(diacritic) "For example, in the spelling coöperate, the diaeresis reminds the reader that the word has four syllables co-op-er-ate, not three, *coop-er-ate. This usage is uncommon in English, and is always optional ..." The ligatures 'æ' and 'œ', and others such as 'ij', 'ff', and 'fi', appear where their corresponding digraph appears in the conventional spelling, such as in the word "diæresis". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature 'In modern English orthography Æ is not considered an independent letter but a spelling variant, for example: "encyclopædia" versus "encyclopaedia" or "encyclopedia". 'Æ comes from Medieval Latin, where it was an optional ligature in some words, for example, "Æneas". It is still found as a variant in English and French, but the trend has recently been towards printing the A and E separately.' So here's a sentence for you, "Those with access to an encyclopædia can find in the noösphere that seven bits do not suffice to represent all the different letters used in English." Oh, and to use onomatopœia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomatop%C5%93ia Pllpptttthththtttppppplkttthhh! -- Lew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronx_cheer