Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher Newsgroups: comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: How stupid ARE people? Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 16:21:48 +0100 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: <51mu88-fo9.ln1@mail.specsol.com> <55edb67b-0969-492f-8c8e-da0c8b5443db@k25g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> <9977f99f-bb5d-4d46-88f2-a4cdcbac89e9@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net LThhzjjq5sjiwPZYwK5rjFQj+VXbNmsH07+IdrQR0Ef5prgAQvr+0yTfXMu0bb/JRGiPcaQbtMXpJHPsQTaCMQ== NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="DWHk2jcc59jZ95E2OJMeQmrBd0TTN3sx15Z5fPaXGvmdQNYZ3E5Y6zhPN/d7z77FCdyRs4gVlvjhK6N0I/bcyE2FoaKT+AHVsj5J4Msnbq34Qh13pIqEn1ldA8RNpjLW"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100329) In-Reply-To: <9977f99f-bb5d-4d46-88f2-a4cdcbac89e9@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:dZalpIuynjzpba2pDv2myH1ACos= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.php:1392 comp.lang.java.programmer:3469 comp.lang.c++:4623 Öö Tiib wrote: > On May 3, 4:33 pm, Joe Snodgrass wrote: >> On Apr 30, 8:27 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass wrote: >>>> After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's >>>> locations, I can't believe that >>>> 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking >>>> and corner the market on people who want no part of it. There's money >>>> to be made, genius! >>>> 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) on >>>> the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off. >>>> 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put >>>> under their control, or else. >>>> Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as >>>> they get their shot every half hour. >>> The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace >>> cell phone calls to a location since 2005. >>> You can thank 9/11 for that rule. >>> Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional. >>> The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in >>> the fines and penalties you will get for selling it. >> Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. I >> suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so >> you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. I >> wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or >> if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD. > > Location can be tracked even without GPS chip. Only accuracy of > tracking is bit lower so one using the information needs to shoot you > with a bit bigger rocket. The mobile network knows very well where you > are at any given moment. How else it routes the incoming calls to you? Magic? :-) the answer is of course not to carry a mobile that is switched on...if you don't want to be tracked.