X-Received: by 10.224.205.65 with SMTP id fp1mr26575688qab.4.1357179777960; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.39.99 with SMTP id o3mr7441999qek.14.1357179777880; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:22:57 -0800 (PST) Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!ee4no12388472qab.0!news-out.google.com!k2ni4226qap.0!nntp.google.com!ee4no12509080qab.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:22:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50e4eadc$0$287$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=149.4.223.154; posting-account=lPVJQwoAAACjT2AlnY0YSj2LC4j2qtwQ NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.4.223.154 References: <0f28108e-6d35-43a1-a9df-b6c5636fb0ec@googlegroups.com> <50e4d730$0$288$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <24e3a8de-a422-4d4e-a319-aeedddb9df03@googlegroups.com> <0154ad4d-a78c-47b7-a457-f40ee1921765@googlegroups.com> <40014c28-55cd-45d6-99be-5ce1fe98622c@googlegroups.com> <1660a797-9846-466a-913c-6193101a1cc8@googlegroups.com> <50e4e90c$0$286$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <500af84f-2fd2-4dd3-b179-c4e16e4f197f@googlegroups.com> <50e4eadc$0$287$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: question on java lang spec chapter 3.3 (unicode char lexing) From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Injection-Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 02:22:57 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 2696 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:20905 On Wednesday, January 2, 2013 9:20:09 PM UTC-5, Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: > On 1/2/2013 9:16 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >=20 > >> All Java IDE's that I know can do that. >=20 > > >=20 > > Let's see we have tried eclipse, netbeans, bluej, dr. java and a few >=20 > > others and every single one failed to produce jars that can be run >=20 > > without after build changes to the manifest and/or needed libs that >=20 > > came with the IDE >=20 >=20 >=20 > It can be done. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Obviously it can also be made not to work. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Maybe you should master a Java IDE before writing an OS in Java. an other requirement not satisfied by any IDE we have found is the ability = to lay the source tree out in such a way that it can be compiled without th= e IDE (a requirement for almost all our projects because none of our client= s have IDE's and in almost all cases there are minor changes needed to make= the code happy on their site that make testing impossible on the developme= nt machine)