Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:49:08 -0600 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:49:06 +0000 From: lipska the kat <"nospam at neversurrender dot co dot uk"> Organization: Trollbusters 3 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120410 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: The Revenge of the Geeks References: <50ff7620$0$80163$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <90OLs.55298$Ep5.21372@newsfe08.iad> <51008bba$0$294$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 24 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-4evDNVzN1yW0Yo+Ll021uP30+40LQ6zAEitzhR3z8hQox6zPtQgv05TdecTECyxJDAVjgDJpSU2d382!r8UEAedLWBepjcWN/5Ln5y4BkcY2+pwE1IEsUWFtVK/Fctl64vQiGDTyWOYzbRnAEgaVoHXaRS0= X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2500 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:159491 comp.sys.mac.advocacy:48860 comp.databases.oracle.server:4118 comp.lang.java.programmer:21638 On 24/01/13 10:03, Arved Sandstrom wrote: > On 01/24/2013 12:47 AM, BGB wrote: >> On 1/23/2013 7:17 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: >>> On 1/23/2013 5:35 AM, BGB wrote: >>>> On 1/23/2013 3:25 AM, Arved Sandstrom wrote: >>>>> On 01/23/2013 02:21 AM, BGB wrote: >>>>>> On 1/22/2013 11:33 PM, Kevin McMurtrie wrote: [snip] > "Business" apps is however the core strength of Java, that and all the > tooling that goes along with it. I couldn't care less if Java is found > on *any* consumer computer, because that's not particularly important. I couldn't agree more. We do nothing but build business systems in Java, however we do also use quite a few desktop tools written in Java, Eclipse and Argo UML being two notable ones. But I guess you could include these in the 'business tooling' category. lipska -- Lipska the Kat©: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun