Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Gene Wirchenko Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:07:59 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <2d84a3f9-fd83-42ae-a841-629d1e420752@googlegroups.com> <500f2352$0$282$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <54a01892mkfhftospg8c8r9h24mn35arcj@4ax.com> <250720121505132854%jimsgibson@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="c0a6a1dc41fc92eb7000e57afbd16211"; logging-data="3933"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX187/TWQG4nhHcfd7/ZS4ClZAX+E1fY0i5Y=" X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 4.2/32.1118 Cancel-Lock: sha1:pzuhluOsKUonMXKKqp/TCTSW/vo= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:16372 On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:05:13 -0700, Jim Gibson wrote: >In article <54a01892mkfhftospg8c8r9h24mn35arcj@4ax.com>, Gene Wirchenko > wrote: [snip] >> Lew, if you were trying to discourage people from using Java, I >> can think of no better way than your harping. That sort of behaviour >> by you and some others here is part of why I gave it up. > >It seems silly to fault a language because of the behavior of a few >individuals on Usenet. I had problems with the language. As we know (don't we?), every language has its quirks. When I posted asking for help, I tended to get nitpicker responses on points that were not relevant to the problem. In one case, the replier criticised my variable-naming convention and did not reply to the problem at all. It does not take many of those to conclude that it is an unfriendly environment. If I can not get help when I need it, it might be better to use another language. I have not run into this behaviour in other language newsgroups, at least, there is nowhere near the amount of backbiting as can be here. What is it about Java and too many of its adherents? There are some nice discussions about general issues which is why I continue to follow this newsgroup. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko