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On 4/23/2012 3:50 PM, markspace wrote:
> On 4/23/2012 3:38 PM, Rui Maciel wrote:
>> Daniel Pitts wrote:
>>
>>> Why not use an IDE though? They provide so much!
>>
>> They also tend to be inferior in a considerable number of aspects,
>> particularly when compared with the features provided by some text
>> editors.
>> Between being forced to stick with an IDE and managing the build
>> process by
>> hand, the latter option sounds a lot better.
>
>
> Modern IDEs are far superior to any text editor. 10 years ago I was a
> vim (actually just vi) fan. No longer. The features provided by modern
> IDEs are leaps and bounds beyond what any text editor provides.
>
> If you can show me a text editor that is superior in any significant
> regard to my IDE, I'd like to see what those features are, and know
> which editor provides them. Productivity is important to me, so if
> there's a productivity tool out there that I'm missing, I'd like to know.
>
> (And I'd like actual objective features, please. If this degenerates
> into trolling editor wars... well, you'll know when I start ignoring
> your posts. "Don't feed the trolls.")

Same here.

I have absolutely no nostalgia for the way I started programming, coding
sheets and punch cards, so I have always been quite open to changing how
I edit code.

Currently, I use Eclipse. I use Eclipse's refactoring capabilities a
lot, not just during formal refactoring passes but also while I'm
writing new code.

However, if there is a significantly better way of editing Java code,
I'd like to know about it.

Patricia