Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.mixmin.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 10:46:51 -0600 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:46:48 +0000 From: lipska the kat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120410 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Java servlet on browsers: dying or kicking ? References: <50d892e5$0$282$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <50dbf6d1$0$80176$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <50dcfecc$0$292$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <50dd5b51$0$80184$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <50de2260$0$293$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <50df9c4b$0$284$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <50e99980$0$294$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> In-Reply-To: <50e99980$0$294$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 40 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-BTbatAhTNJYw6/z7Gh7wlXQt/3gWg6tA2XwN2q3LwfuG8YThAzaiydZ/bamFFwgctg0od+91z5bsQsU!AFGj7vDQViI7Sk2WOiZAxZMfqZbb2D54yirUAaI8oaK68NEJC9S868LEneqAknedESxwu2okvUI= X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3169 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:21039 On 06/01/13 15:34, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > On 1/6/2013 5:27 AM, lipska the kat wrote: >> On 05/01/13 00:22, Richard Maher wrote: >>> "Arved Sandstrom" wrote in message >>> news:nUoEs.1$Z03.0@newsfe23.iad... >>>> On 12/29/2012 09:43 PM, Arne Vajh�j wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>> But let's say they put all the business rules in the Business Layer >>> implemented in a Java or C# class. Who is going to inforce thos rules >>> from >>> PHP Perl or Python access? >> >> This is a spurious argument. Any organization that allows unfettered >> access to it's data by random clients written in unsupported languages >> deserves everything it gets. > > I thought the idea of solving IT complexity by having one language, > one database etc. died 20 years ago. > > One size does not fit all. No one is suggesting it does. The solution to maintaining control over your data is all about good management of your resources. And by management I mean managing who and what you allow to access your data, because in the end, that is what we are talking about isn't it, data integrity. If you allow anyone or anything using any language to do anything that you don't have ultimate control over then then you are asking for trouble. It has nothing to do with whether the business logic is in one place or not. lipska -- Lipska the Kat©: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun