X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 88.191.16.109 Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.dougwise.org!nntpfeed.proxad.net!nospam.fr.eu.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!74.125.46.80.MISMATCH!postnews.google.com!gu8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Michael Doubez Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Nslookup Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 00:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 130 Message-ID: References: <9973d98a-f6db-4908-8651-575affbfbdf4@q32g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <2pydnQEfsN0cGE7QnZ2dnUVZ8g-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <383dccd4-4e1f-46ac-a098-7767b2ffd543@hg8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.160.54.163 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1305878118 17009 127.0.0.1 (20 May 2011 07:55:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 07:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: gu8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=62.160.54.163; posting-account=4_dwSAoAAAD_OEYz89wEMQOvnJlm6isC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1,gzip(gfe) Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4344 On 19 mai, 16:08, Lew wrote: > Michael Doubez wrote: > =A0> Lew wrote: > > =A0>> Michael Doubez wrote:=A0>>> Lew wrote: > =A0>>>> bugbear wrote: > =A0>>>>> Lew wrote: > > =A0>>>>>> Joe, if you want to discuss this with people who will take your= question > =A0>>>>>> seriously, please feel free to do so. I apologize that I do not= know how > =A0>>>>>> to answer your question, but I support your right to ask it. At= least > =A0>>>>>> among us practical-minded folk. > =A0>> > =A0>>>>> One might wonder why the comp hierarchy is split at all, followi= ng your > "logic" > =A0>> > =A0>>>> I guess that depends on one's commitment to helping fellow progra= mmers. =A0I > =A0>>>> believe if you don't want to answer the OP in this thread, that y= ou're being > =A0>>>> insufficiently helpful. =A0Shame on you if true, because that mea= ns you > want to > =A0>>>> enforce some petty and arbitrary limit rather than help. > =A0>> > =A0>>> Argumentum ad misericordiam > =A0>> > =A0>> Misidentification of fallacy. > =A0> > =A0> So you say. > =A0> > =A0>> I'd already made the point that it's relevant > =A0>> to one of the groups to which the OP posted, namely clj.programmer. > =A0> > =A0> I know java language is very large but AFAIS os tools like nslookup > =A0> are not part of it and the OP's question is not related to > =A0> programming. > =A0> > =A0>> =A0 The > =A0>> "programmer" part of that means that it's not about the language as= such, but > =A0>> the skills needed to use it effectively. =A0I had argued that the q= uestion is > =A0>> relevant there. > =A0> > =A0> The programmer part uses many skills, each of them can be classified > =A0> in its related newsgroup. Nslookup is a os related problem. I may > =A0> search in-depth at home and go to my os' newsgroup to ask the right > =A0> people and not only to those that happen to be here. > =A0> > =A0>> =A0 The appeal to sympathy is to show that the line was being > =A0>> drawn arbitrarily fine. > =A0> > =A0> So you are basically saying that the sympathy proves something about > =A0> the width of the line being drawn. That's basically ad misericordiam= . > > I am saying that I already addressed the question of relevance, Which I answered where/when you addressed it. > and I think that you're being petty and mean to be so rigid. > =A0>> =A0 Nowhere am I suggesting that the discussion veer from > =A0>> the subject of the newsgroup, =A0I only suggest that people not be = such > =A0>> namby-pamby nitpickers and be so doggedly exclusionary. > =A0> > =A0>> So while you show off your Latin quite nicely, it's irrelevant. > =A0> > =A0> That's the name of the sophism classification. I can't help it if it > =A0> is in latin. Like the sophism, you are using now: ad hominem > =A0> (dismissing what I said because of the use of latin [sic] supposedly= chosen > =A0> for showing off). > > Wow, good for you. =A0You parroted my helpful hint that I was using ad ho= minem. > =A0 That shows you paid attention when you read my post. =A0Congratulatio= ns on > your ability to repeat what I said. I did not bothered to correct you because you were not even wrong. Simply insulting someone has nothing to do with 'ad hominem'. > =A0>>> The reason why the people here are so helpful and the group is sti= ll > =A0>>> alive is because some people do care enough to keep the discussion= s on > =A0>>> topic. > =A0>> > =A0>> I don't know where your "here" is, but in this thread I'm arguing a= gainst the > =A0>> people who are NOT being "so helpful". > =A0> > =A0> Here is comp.lang.c++ but I expect that OP posted in other helpful > =A0> groups. > > Well, clj.programmer is a bit more tolerant than you. Good for you. Then please stop polluting other groups. > > =A0>>> If it wasn't the case you wouldn't be able to ask your question he= re > =A0>>> because everybody would be too busy chatting and exchanging reciep= es. > =A0>>> You would then have to ask elsewhere, which is exactely what the O= P is > =A0>>> invited to do. > =A0>> > =A0>> And also the OP is being invited EXACTLY to continue to post "here"= for one > =A0>> value of "here". > =A0> > =A0> Well, keep your "here" as comp.lang.java.programmer and please stop > =A0> cross posting. > > Or what? =A0You'll call the Usenet Police? I don't need to make threat or appeal to authority to make a point: you are needlessly making noise in other groups. -- Michael