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Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML??

From Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML??
Date 2012-07-29 11:14 +0200
Message-ID <a7kd8sF7r7U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (1 earlier) <jv1fsq$3sj$1@speranza.aioe.org> <501445A0.7020606@telia.com> <lrCdncP0Qc4j2onNnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <jv26e9$hbh$1@dont-email.me> <a7kc3uFv96U1@mid.individual.net>

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On 29.07.2012 10:55, Robert Klemme wrote:
> Same here: I am using news.individual.net (paid service) for years now
> and did not change anything.  It seems some news server's configuration
> or implementation is broken and it mirrors messages back with garbled
> headers.

I did some analysis and it seems one posting of me shows up five times 
of which only one is the proper original posting and further instances 
have changed headers, message ids and also mangled content.

Here are selected headers (regexp 
"^(Path|From|Date|Message-ID|References|NNTP-Posting-Date|Lines):"):

Path: uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:21:17 +0200
Lines: 65
Message-ID: <a7fbtdFuacU1@mid.individual.net>
References: <slrnk0i1f5.fbk.fredrik@scout.jonson.org> 
<a6subnFf45U1@mid.individual.net> <jucbq7$lg6$1@localhost.localdomain> 
<UML-20120720213658@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> 
<a6u2riF3fuU1@mid.individual.net> 
<m8dp08hrsk48p3kj5g47uso1gpp1qrh603@4ax.com> 
<500cbc5d$0$295$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> 
<a74c3mF476U1@mid.individual.net> 
<i50r08hjiebe152pdeot546psfefk432vh@4ax.com> 
<a75lv5F11vU1@mid.individual.net> 
<3qcr08lkpvcmhe0drpffhegusd6k2a1670@4ax.com> 
<a7chacFoblU1@mid.individual.net> 
<6sq218p9vfg1m2fgg5pm8sthhdot288mia@4ax.com>


Path: 
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.glorb.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-10ae-this>
Message-ID: <5012D7B7.55391.calajapr@time.synchro.net>
Lines: 71
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:41:00 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:41:00 CDT


Path: 
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.ripco.com!news.glorb.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-nwi-this>
Message-ID: <5012E6BF.55405.calajapr@time.synchro.net>
Lines: 79
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:42:43 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:42:43 CDT


Path: 
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.glorb.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit4.readnews.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-z1h-this>
Message-ID: <50142C2A.55428.calajapr@time.synchro.net>
Lines: 87
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:36:42 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:36:42 CDT


Path: 
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!news.glorb.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-5ky-this>
Message-ID: <50143773.55451.calajapr@time.synchro.net>
Lines: 95
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:40:16 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:40:16 CDT


A few observations:

- Message-ID of course is changed
- From is garbled
- References is missing
- Lines is increasing, you can see stuff added at top and bottom of posting

Last posting, at top:

   To: Gene Wirchenko
From: "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-z1h-this>

   To: Gene Wirchenko
From: "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-nwi-this>

   To: Gene Wirchenko
From: "Robert Klemme" <robert.klemme@1:261/38.remove-10ae-this>

   To: Gene Wirchenko
From: Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com>


Last posting, at bottom:

-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
  + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
-+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24

-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
  + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
-+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24

-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
  + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
-+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
  * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
--- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24



I'll send this to news@tds.net as well as the feedback address of 
news.individual.net.

Kind regards

	robert


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  Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-nwi-this> - 2012-07-27 19:42 +0000
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "jebblue" <jebblue@1:261/38.remove-z1h-this> - 2012-07-28 18:36 +0000
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Arne Vajhøj" <arne.vajhøj@1:261/38.remove-qhs-this> - 2012-08-08 19:04 +0000
  Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Gene Wirchenko" <gene.wirchenko@1:261/38.remove-nwi-this> - 2012-07-27 19:42 +0000
  Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> - 2012-07-28 15:51 -0400
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2012-07-28 22:03 +0200
      Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org> - 2012-07-28 13:12 -0700
        Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca> - 2012-07-28 22:16 -0400
          Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-29 10:55 +0200
            Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Robert Klemme <shortcutter@googlemail.com> - 2012-07-29 11:14 +0200
              Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Gene Wirchenko <genew@ocis.net> - 2012-07-29 15:28 -0700
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2012-07-28 19:29 -0400
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