Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Novice Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Aspect questions? Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Your Company Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <4f496fe1$0$281$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: Dmxgbnvd+eoRDUV2lwYf7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120226-2, 2012-02-26), Outbound message Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:12361 Arne Vajhøj wrote in news:4f496fe1$0$281$14726298@news.sunsite.dk: > On 2/25/2012 6:29 PM, Novice wrote: >> Did you ever hear that old saying, attributed to various ancient >> personages? >> >> “He who knows not and knows not he knows not: he is a fool - shun >> him. He who knows not and knows he knows not: he is simple - teach >> him. He who knows and knows not he knows: he is asleep - wake him. He >> who knows and knows he knows: he is wise - follow him.” > > Wise words. > >> In that context, I consider myself "simple": I know that there are a >> bunch of things I don't know. I'm looking at the people in this >> newsgroup as being in the 'wise' category and am trying to learn from >> you. >> >> As I've said, I'm a one man Java shop in a town that doesn't seem to >> do much Java. I don't work in a professional Java shop so I have no >> professional Java code to look at or peers to learn from. So I'm >> floundering. That's why this newsgroup is important to me. I _AM_ >> trying to get better at this.... > > You may be able to download and look at some open source code that > uses logging. > Can you suggest any specific projects/products that you think are particularly well-written? I had thought of looking at such code before but I'm not sure I'd necessarily recognize well-written code if I found it. It might look strange to me but actually be brilliant or viceversa. If I start looking at code that is written by someone who knows less than I do, I'll go backwards, not forwards, in my learning. -- Novice