Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:05:56 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 19:05:55 +0000 From: lipska the kat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120410 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: proper use of .java files (layout) References: <41e38b5a-2aa7-43a4-9bc8-87e0eb4a977c@googlegroups.com> <7sd1d8d54icvgpcvolc8uvr78ocelu96r1@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <7sd1d8d54icvgpcvolc8uvr78ocelu96r1@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 39 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-Ai68nLjiwsgQeDucUcDb/GOn9SjLR439bGTzMrGgJCGNohCoi7zUgFGqpFc1+M/GUwpLK9BcoiK3Qok!uk8mHj0CAU3hlojWMMtGyOKXKqTLB2bUsUQm+r/UOykKpLAUgNI9fZGEpzWazj9UUzTYlQDvA/A= X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2804 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:20468 On 18/12/12 18:40, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:39:02 +0000, lipska the kat > wrote: [snip] > > No, but I do design code before I write it. The big design comes > first, then pieces of smaller design, then the code associated with > the smaller design. Repeat the last two steps as needed. > >> Just IME mind you, I'm sure you are not suggesting that. >> >> Actually I suggest that they proceed in parallel. > > For a given piece of code, design comes first. Well if you call the mental process that we go through when we write a piece of code 'design' then I agree but are you really saying that you have never just written some code to test your thoughts BEFORE you commit your thoughts to a formal model ... I find that hard to believe [snip] > Maybe you should consider a conversation with colleagues a higher > priority than trolling. Yes, this is an interesting point. It's often appears to be the case that if someone doesn't agree with you then they are trolling ... I often disagree with people but I don't call them trolls. Disappointing but sadly predictable. lipska -- Lipska the KatŠ: Troll hunter, sandbox destroyer and farscape dreamer of Aeryn Sun