X-Received: by 10.66.88.234 with SMTP id bj10mr2500349pab.30.1359409764099; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:49:24 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.47.134 with SMTP id d6mr1240723ign.0.1359409764039; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:49:24 -0800 (PST) Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!f6no13991266pbd.1!news-out.google.com!6ni22070pbd.1!nntp.google.com!ld4no14027486pbb.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:49:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.28.149.29; posting-account=CP-lKQoAAAAGtB5diOuGlDQk0jIwmH0T NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.28.149.29 References: <0cfefb99-94f9-44e0-9b58-926818a9560d@googlegroups.com> <3srNs.105645$EO2.76867@newsfe04.iad> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9fb16fc4-def9-4dba-9076-9d7dba10894e@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ultralog: new concept of logging API From: Lew Injection-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:49:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:21823 On Monday, January 28, 2013 1:32:32 AM UTC-8, Mikhail Vladimirov wrote: > > So just by doing what I already do I get absolutely everything you tout > > > as an advantage of your new logging system. > > Main advantage of ultralog is an ability to substitute variables into log messages without allocating new objects, yet having readable code. This advantage cannot be achieved on top of log4j because log4j allocates temporary objects internally. You keep touting "advantages" that your potential users state as not very helpful, or not superior to existing tools. Your sense of "advantages" is irrelevant to marketing. The market's sense is what matters and all that matters. Arguing with prospects does not make them customers. Good luck with that. The answers you've given others in this thread have convinced me unequivocally to avoid your project. Good job. -- Lew