Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D6=F6_Tiib?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.php,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: How stupid ARE people? Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 06:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 47 Message-ID: <9977f99f-bb5d-4d46-88f2-a4cdcbac89e9@d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> References: <51mu88-fo9.ln1@mail.specsol.com> <55edb67b-0969-492f-8c8e-da0c8b5443db@k25g2000yqf.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.47.207.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1304430955 21562 127.0.0.1 (3 May 2011 13:55:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 13:55:55 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: d1g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=212.47.207.1; posting-account=pysjKgkAAACLegAdYDFznkqjgx_7vlUK User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe) Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.php:1390 comp.lang.java.programmer:3467 comp.lang.c++:4620 On May 3, 4:33=A0pm, Joe Snodgrass wrote: > On Apr 30, 8:27=A0pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > > > > > > In comp.lang.phpJoeSnodgrass wrote: > > > > After all the scary news about smart phones broadcasting people's > > > locations, I can't believe that > > > > 1) Some genius doesn't build a smart phone with no location tracking > > > and corner the market on people who want no part of it. =A0There's mo= ney > > > to be made, genius! > > > > 2) Manufacturers don't put a control (preferably a hardware switch) o= n > > > the annoying things to *reliably* leave the feature turned off. > > > > 3) Customers don't raise a ruckus and demand that the feature be put > > > under their control, or else. > > > > Americans are heroin addicts, who will suck up anything, as long as > > > they get their shot every half hour. > > > The FCC has required that all cell phone companies be able to trace > > cell phone calls to a location since 2005. > > > You can thank 9/11 for that rule. > > > Only whether or not the user can access the tracking data is optional. > > > The only money to be made with a phone with no location tracking is in > > the fines and penalties you will get for selling it. > > Then the only alternative is to try disconnect the GPS chip. =A0I > suppose that it's too much to ask for the chip to have little legs, so > you can just cut it off the circuit by snipping the power pin. =A0I > wonder if the OS is robust enough to tolerate a loss of that signal or > if you'd get the cellphone equivalent of a BSOD. Location can be tracked even without GPS chip. Only accuracy of tracking is bit lower so one using the information needs to shoot you with a bit bigger rocket. The mobile network knows very well where you are at any given moment. How else it routes the incoming calls to you?