Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: blmblm@myrealbox.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: OT names/nyms/etc. Paul Derbyshire in History Class [was] Why "lock" - BURP Date: 11 Jul 2011 22:35:31 GMT Organization: None Lines: 128 Message-ID: <981c5iFlgtU3@mid.individual.net> References: X-Trace: individual.net yX7+v8NUnXn37AlLzSFkcAn9y4klMaDrKj2r85259BI7tD1sQN X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZwWU2ZL3AG1f1jb9tXC2Rkonuig= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:6088 comp.lang.lisp:4659 In article , Steve.Erwin wrote: > blmblm@myrealbox.com wrote: > >Steve Erwin wrote: > [cut] > >> My point - Ms Massingill - is, it is interesting you follow this > >> "rule of etiquette" yet ignore basic rules of network protocol > >> in tX'n an unkempt (shoddy - bogan) > > > >Could you try that again in something more closely resembling > >standard English .... Nah, I probably get enough of the intended > >meaning. > > > You use trn. > Are you saying you gained an exposure to nix environments > yet avoided having your 'dialect' of english compromised? No. But I don't recognize "tX'n" or "bogan". [ snip ] > I have fxd REF - read the advice. No idea what you mean here either ("fxd"? "REF? though the latter could be a reference to "References" header), but I doubt it's important. In general I suppose I don't find some of the old-style techspeak shorthand very appealing. Maybe that's why I don't recognize some of yours. [ snip ] > >> Small chops (as it is) it has certainly signaled to > >> Paul Derbyshire (lewbloch+KitKat) > > > >Are you seriously suggesting that both of these posters are Mr. > >Derbyshire in disguise? > > > I am not suggesting. I am giving you the shortcut to Truth. > Are you really that poor a listener _all_ the time? > > >That would surprise me very much in the > >case of the person who posts as Lew Bloch. I've been following > >this group for several years, and -- I'm skeptical. > > > Did I say "Lew Bloch"? Ah. Case and spacing are significant, aren't they. I did assume that "Lew Bloch" and "lewbloch" were the same, but that might not be the case. Still, some of the posts made by "lewbloch" do show some familiar tropes (if that's the word I want). Example: Message-ID: <90bbfd1b-cb7e-4fbb-9890-f1196c633e8d@a11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> ("[sic]" and objecting to JAVA, in particular.) [ snip ] > >I guess it's possible, but really, didn't *I* start this particular > >exchange by involving myself in the "names ending in 'a' are > >feminine" subthread? foolishly, no doubt, but "yeah well". > > > When you are going to refer to some 'obscure', or not related > to a current topic (in a subthread) comment, you _must_ supply > a link to your reference. I assumed (apparently wrongly) that you had followed the whole exchange. I'd have included a message ID if I'd thought it really mattered. (I think.) Anyway for the record <97hctfFa1jU1@mid.individual.net> is the one I meant. > Thankyou for forcing me to download a Guggler's post.. not! > > REF shows the messageID for the origin of the thread (I think) > you refer to. I am not downloading and reading the thread > to do your work, work you can do. > I came in here; > <4e14a510$0$6450$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com> Which in its reference headers has a reference to the earlier post (above). Does your news reader not make it easy to fetch a post's parent (in the tree of posts)? > .. and only as you were responding to a known fuckwit. > You rejected the advice I gave at that time, so what is going > to change, now? As I understand things, the main piece of advice you have given me is to change my setup so that it shows something other than a now-obsolete e-mail address as my "name". I decline to follow that advice, yes. > >Also, if your theory about real identities is correct, there may > >be a history -- but that's all I'm going to say about that. [ snip ] > History? Yes, but again it appears that I have not expressed my meaning clearly .... > fyi.... > Every post (made with XNA=No) is archived in text newsgroups > correctly listed in a nwsrc file. Were _some_ to know that small > fact of Usenet Life they would not post an iota of the shit they do. I'm well aware that Google is attempting to carry on with the complete(?) archive of Usenet posts begun by Deja News, though sometimes the access they provide to it isn't what one might hope for. Is there anyone else who claims to be providing the same service? AIUI most news servers do not retain posts indefinitely. Just for the record, the name "Paul Derbyshire" is not new to me -- I've been following this group for long enough to have observed (and, alas, participated in) previous discussions in which the name arose. That's what I meant by "history". Apparently you thought I meant something else. Yeah well. [ snip ] -- B. L. Massingill ObDisclaimer: I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor.