Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!feeder.erje.net!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 22:08:43 -0500 From: Leif Roar Moldskred Subject: Re: Apache JDBC utils Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer References: <4fa07113$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> User-Agent: tin/2.0.0-20110823 ("Ardenistiel") (UNIX) (Linux/3.0.0-17-generic-pae (i686)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <6LCdndn-__GmOD3SnZ2dnUVZ8kadnZ2d@giganews.com> Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 22:08:43 -0500 Lines: 24 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-UG56pkxYbiOqyUxsQF2U4Vvj4ctT7UxkQ1z1qa1H1fRvhgGfTDl+OB3qAM6aXvVTj7zxOwnjUO+dY0u!zs4HT9XqYL6C8T8VQ6AlN8zFNjFtCaUJ+g2DgWbTY+aIKKrya/rahiimXDAtlrbwD05ITe43pg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 1888 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:14123 Arne Vajhøj wrote: > > What are you actually gaining by not using a full blown ORM > (JPA, traditional Hibernate etc.)? Simpler project dependencies, direct control over the SQL, less "architectural weigth", "nærhet til materialet". *shrugs* None of those would normally make me forego the convenience and utility of a full ORM, but they are still gains. > I doubt that the less memory usage will be noticeable. Well, there's Android development. > It is not really a problem that the full blown ORM is hundreds > of thousands of lines of code, because maintenance is not > your responsibility. Well, maintenance _of_ the ORM might still affect your project and need to be managed, though. -- Leif Roar Moldskred