Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: How to develop without an IDE? Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 11:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5183845.788.1335981689730.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbbof7> References: <4f94338d$0$295$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4f94765c$0$284$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4f949830$0$295$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4f9cb523$0$293$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4f9d8965$0$288$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4f9f446b$0$288$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.28.149.29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1335981690 3827 127.0.0.1 (2 May 2012 18:01:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 18:01:30 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.28.149.29; posting-account=CP-lKQoAAAAGtB5diOuGlDQk0jIwmH0T User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Received-Bytes: 3130 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:14138 BGB wrote: > Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: >> BGB wrote: >>> Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: >>>> Java import and C include is not similar at any distance. >>>> >>> >>> well, both are used to make use of a library, >> >> Neither of them are used to make use of a library. >> >> Java import allows you to reference classes without package name. >> >> C include includes some source code from another file in the >> compilation of current file. >> >=20 > this is what they do (or, how they work), but the issue is not what they= =20 > do, but what purpose they are used for. >=20 >=20 > >> both also have a word starting with the same letter and appear near th= e > >> top of a source file, and are vaguely similar looking, also sort of > >> making them "similar". Clearly you are joking here. >> C include can be anywhere in the file. >=20 > but is most often at the top (except maybe when writing headers or=20 > similar, where near the bottom is also common). "Most often" is stylistic; the discussion here is how the constructs are di= ssimilar, and Java 'import' must be at the top, just as Arne said, and that= is a difference. Your so-called counterargument is irrelevant as it does n= ot countervail the difference. > > They do both start with "i", but so does ice cream. >=20 > yes, but ice-cream is not a keyword in either language. And "include" is not a keyword in Java. The comparison is both inaccurate = and blazingly irrelevant. I know you are just jerking us around, but it's c= ausing people to answer you seriously, BGB, so please stop. --=20 Lew