Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "=?UTF-8?B?QXJuZSBWYWpow7hq?=" <=?utf-8?b?qxjuzsbwywpow7hq?=@1:261/38.remove-nlb-this> Subject: Re: hashCode Message-ID: <502943B2.56753.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-Comment-To: Eric Sosman Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer In-Reply-To: <502943B2.56750.calajapr@time.synchro.net> References: <502943B2.56750.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-FTN-AREA: COMP.LANG.JAVA.PROGRAMMER X-FTN-MSGID: 1:261/38 43da0669 X-FTN-REPLY: 1:261/38 f80daf3c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98] Lines: 54 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:36:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65 X-Complaints-To: news@tds.net X-Trace: newsreading01.news.tds.net 1344882976 69.21.70.65 (Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:36:16 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:36:16 CDT Organization: tds.net X-Received-Bytes: 2809 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:17806 To: Eric Sosman From: "=?UTF-8?B?QXJuZSBWYWpow7hq?=" <=?utf-8?b?qxjuzsbwywpow7hq?=@1:261/38.rem ove-m2z-this> To: Eric Sosman From: =?UTF-8?B?QXJuZSBWYWpow7hq?= On 8/11/2012 10:43 PM, Eric Sosman wrote: > The O.P. asked whether it would "be potentially better" if > Object's hashCode() returned a constant. He did *not* ask whether > such an implementation would be correct; he only asked if it would > "be potentially better." Upon prompting he explained what he > meant by "better," and in light of that explanation the answer > to his original question is NO. Discussions about "Oh, but it's > CORRECT" are just red herrings; it's still not "better." The original questions were: #Is it always technically correct to override the hashCode function #like so: # # @Override # public int hashCode() { # return 1; # } For which the answer is YES. Per documentation. But with really poor performance in many relevant cases. #Would it be potentially better if that was Object's implementation? Which was clarified to: #Better in the sense that you would never HAVE to override hashCode. For which the answer is also YES. Per the previous. But with the same performance note. And a big sigh because it seems to want to broaden bad performance from a single class to the entire programming style (multiple classes). Arne -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24