Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.ripco.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Arne Vajhøj" Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Message-ID: <5023FE36.56453.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-Comment-To: Patricia Shanahan Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer In-Reply-To: <50142C2A.55431.calajapr@time.synchro.net> References: <50142C2A.55431.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-FTN-AREA: COMP.LANG.JAVA.PROGRAMMER X-FTN-MSGID: 1:261/38 1ed52c18 X-FTN-REPLY: 1:261/38 58a288dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98] Lines: 50 Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:44:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65 X-Complaints-To: news@tds.net X-Trace: newsreading01.news.tds.net 1344537870 69.21.70.65 (Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:44:30 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:44:30 CDT Organization: tds.net Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:17504 To: Patricia Shanahan From: "Arne Vajhoj" To: Patricia Shanahan From: "Arne Vajhoj" To: Patricia Shanahan From: Arne Vajhoj On 7/27/2012 12:05 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > On 7/26/2012 11:47 AM, Arne Vajhoj wrote: > ... >> Someone believing in most of them is a different story. I am skeptical >> about calling such a person for a Java developer. Even though the code >> is following JLS and compiles with javac, then there is almost no >> overlap with the Java world. It is not the Java way. And if the >> person tried to write such code at work, then the person would be >> kicked out quickly in many places. It is not what companies expect >> when they hire a Java developer. > ... > > I think of programming languages as tools, not philosophies. Java > happens to be a favorite tool, one that fits my brain the way my > favorite wood carving chisel fits my hand. On the other hand, I no more > subscribe to "the Java way" than to a "the half inch chisel way". > > When I'm starting a new program, in a situation in which I'm free to use > any standards I like, I follow the commonest conventions for the > program's language. If I'm modifying or adding to an existing project, > or working in an organization that has other conventions, I follow the > local conventions. So in reality you are subscribing to the Java way. Arne -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24