Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Patricia Shanahan" Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Message-ID: <501D6355.56129.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-Comment-To: Wanja Gayk Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer In-Reply-To: <501D6354.56124.calajapr@time.synchro.net> References: <501D6354.56124.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-FTN-AREA: COMP.LANG.JAVA.PROGRAMMER X-FTN-MSGID: 1:261/38 80463129 X-FTN-REPLY: 1:261/38 395cac16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98] Lines: 42 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 18:41:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65 X-Complaints-To: news@tds.net X-Trace: newsreading01.news.tds.net 1344105705 69.21.70.65 (Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:41:45 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:41:45 CDT Organization: tds.net Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:17168 To: Wanja Gayk From: Patricia Shanahan On 8/4/2012 1:17 AM, Wanja Gayk wrote: > In article , > pats@acm.org says... > >> I think of programming languages as tools, not philosophies. > > You can use a excavator to dig a hole and you could use your old hand > shovel, but you would not try to grab and move the excavator's arm with > our hands to dig a hole, just because that's the way you operated your > old hand shovel for the past 10 years, and you're used to that. > > Both are different tools that use the same method (digging) to do the > same job (creating a hole), but they want to be used the way their > inventors have imagined, not the way you have used another tool > previously. It may still work though, but I doubt it's the brightest > idea. There are indeed some things that are really necessary for effective use of a given tool. I put the sharp end of my chisel against the wood, and tap the blunt end with a mallet. I'm sure everyone using a wood chisel and a mallet does that the same way round. The analogy for the situation that started this sub-thread is as though the excavator were delivered with green paint, and most excavators of that model were painted green. A particular user has a lot of hole-related tools such as pile drivers and other models of excavators, and choose to paint all of them blue to avoid the inconvenience of keeping different paint colors around. He asked a question about lubricating the excavator, but some people take one look at a photo of his blue excavator and tell him that it should be green, that he will never be a capable excavator user unless he paints it green, and that green paint is the excavator way. Patricia --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24