Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!news.ripco.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Gene Wirchenko" Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Message-ID: <5016CF43.55627.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-Comment-To: Robert Klemme Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer In-Reply-To: <50142C2C.55442.calajapr@time.synchro.net> References: <50142C2C.55442.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-FTN-AREA: COMP.LANG.JAVA.PROGRAMMER X-FTN-MSGID: 1:261/38 3ebf64c5 X-FTN-REPLY: 1:261/38 d75d2850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98] Lines: 35 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:00:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65 X-Complaints-To: news@tds.net X-Trace: newsreading01.news.tds.net 1343674852 69.21.70.65 (Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:00:52 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:00:52 CDT Organization: tds.net Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:16657 To: Robert Klemme From: Gene Wirchenko On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:36:59 +0200, Robert Klemme wrote: >On 27.07.2012 23:11, David Lamb wrote: > >> I taught introductory programming for several years in several >> languages. You don't need to get as complex as backtracking. The natural >> places to teach recursion to introductory students are with binary tree >> search and quicksort, both of which can be taught in the first or second >> 1-semester course. > >Right. Although I'd consider Quicksort too complex as an introduction >to recursion as the algorithms workings are not so easy to grasp and >would distract from the concept of recursion. Tree search seems to be What complex? Find the pivot. Sort before the pivot. Sort after the pivot. Rinse, lather, etc. >the most appropriate to me. Still, introducing recursion as a concept >in programming does not belong into class reference documentation. This >is something for a tutorial or other introductory material. I agree. Recursion is a standard concept. Sincerely, Gene wirchenko --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24