Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!news.ripco.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Lars Enderin" Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Message-ID: <5016CF3D.55587.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-Comment-To: kensi Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer X-FTN-AREA: COMP.LANG.JAVA.PROGRAMMER X-FTN-MSGID: 1:261/38 e329f03d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98] Lines: 63 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 19:00:42 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65 X-Complaints-To: news@tds.net X-Trace: newsreading01.news.tds.net 1343674842 69.21.70.65 (Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:00:42 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:00:42 CDT Organization: tds.net Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:16616 To: kensi From: "Lars Enderin" To: kensi From: "Lars Enderin" To: kensi From: Lars Enderin 2012-07-28 21:51, kensi skrev: > On 27/07/2012 3:42 PM, Arne Vajhoj wrote: > [snip] > > Why are half the people in this group suddenly switching to this > news.tds.net NNTP provider? > > I ask because that NNTP provider is b0rken: > > 1. Every post has the same NNTP-Posting-Host header, even from people I > know are not sockpuppets of one another, e.g. you, Robert Klemmke, > David Lamb, and Jim Janney all have recent posts with > NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65. > > 2. Posts through that server have the References: header stripped. As > a result, every time any of you posts through that server it breaks > a piece off the thread you're replying to, causing clutter and making > discussions more difficult to follow. > > 3. It seems to fuck up character encodings, most noticeably when Vajhoj > posts or is replied to via TDS as he has a non-ASCII character in his > name. > > Please switch back to your original providers, or if you can't for some > reason, such as because they closed, please find something better than > TDS to replace them with. AIOE works well enough for me and does not > break References: when I reply or screw up encoding the o character. It > does not require signup. Eternal-September is something I often see > recommended, does require signup, but is free. Either of those is > probably better than (and maybe even cheaper than) this TDS, from all > indications. I, for one, did not switch to that provider, yet my last post, addressing the same point as yours, got copied through it. I don't think anybody else chose it either. The posts are copied with different headers but the same contents. That server should be closed down. -- Lars Enderin -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24