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From: "Jim Janney" <jim.janney@1:261/38.remove-5bm-this>
Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML??
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  To: kensi
From: Jim Janney <jjanney@shell.xmission.com>

kensi <kensi_kensington@zoonoses.de> writes:

> On 27/07/2012 3:42 PM, Arne Vajhoj wrote:
> [snip]
>
> Why are half the people in this group suddenly switching to this
> news.tds.net NNTP provider?
>
> I ask because that NNTP provider is b0rken:
>
> 1. Every post has the same NNTP-Posting-Host header, even from people I
>    know are not sockpuppets of one another, e.g. you, Robert Klemmke,
>    David Lamb, and Jim Janney all have recent posts with
>    NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65.
>
> 2. Posts through that server have the References: header stripped. As
>    a result, every time any of you posts through that server it breaks
>    a piece off the thread you're replying to, causing clutter and making
>    discussions more difficult to follow.
>
> 3. It seems to fuck up character encodings, most noticeably when Vajhoj
>    posts or is replied to via TDS as he has a non-ASCII character in his
>    name.
>
> Please switch back to your original providers, or if you can't for
> some reason, such as because they closed, please find something better
> than TDS to replace them with. AIOE works well enough for me and does
> not break References: when I reply or screw up encoding the o
> character. It does not require signup. Eternal-September is something
> I often see recommended, does require signup, but is free. Either of
> those is probably better than (and maybe even cheaper than) this TDS,
> from all indications.

For the last several years all my posts, including this one, have been through 
news.eternal-september.org.

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Jim Janney

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