Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.ripco.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Arne Vajhøj" Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Message-ID: <50157A41.55509.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-Comment-To: kensi Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer In-Reply-To: <50157A3B.55483.calajapr@time.synchro.net> References: <50157A3B.55483.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-FTN-AREA: COMP.LANG.JAVA.PROGRAMMER X-FTN-MSGID: 1:261/38 c7bac450 X-FTN-REPLY: 1:261/38 185b7c83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98] Lines: 49 Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:16:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65 X-Complaints-To: news@tds.net X-Trace: newsreading01.news.tds.net 1343585804 69.21.70.65 (Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:16:44 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:16:44 CDT Organization: tds.net Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:16538 To: kensi From: Arne Vajhoj On 7/28/2012 3:51 PM, kensi wrote: > On 27/07/2012 3:42 PM, Arne Vajhoj wrote: > [snip] > > Why are half the people in this group suddenly switching to this > news.tds.net NNTP provider? > > I ask because that NNTP provider is b0rken: > > 1. Every post has the same NNTP-Posting-Host header, even from people I > know are not sockpuppets of one another, e.g. you, Robert Klemmke, > David Lamb, and Jim Janney all have recent posts with > NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65. > > 2. Posts through that server have the References: header stripped. As > a result, every time any of you posts through that server it breaks > a piece off the thread you're replying to, causing clutter and making > discussions more difficult to follow. > > 3. It seems to fuck up character encodings, most noticeably when Vajhoj > posts or is replied to via TDS as he has a non-ASCII character in his > name. > > Please switch back to your original providers, or if you can't for some > reason, such as because they closed, please find something better than > TDS to replace them with. AIOE works well enough for me and does not > break References: when I reply or screw up encoding the o character. It > does not require signup. Eternal-September is something I often see > recommended, does require signup, but is free. Either of those is > probably better than (and maybe even cheaper than) this TDS, from all > indications. All messages seems to show up OK in one copy. Then some server seems to duplicate them with something messed up including weird header and footer. I have not changed anything in my config and I strongly suspect that the other have not either. Arne --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24