Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "David Lamb" Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Message-ID: <50143773.55446.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-Comment-To: Arne Vajhøj Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer X-FTN-AREA: COMP.LANG.JAVA.PROGRAMMER X-FTN-MSGID: 1:261/38 9cf52b9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98] Lines: 46 Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:40:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65 X-Complaints-To: news@tds.net X-Trace: newsreading01.news.tds.net 1343508015 69.21.70.65 (Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:40:15 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:40:15 CDT Organization: tds.net X-Received-Bytes: 2288 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:16477 To: Arne Vajhøj From: "David Lamb" To: Arne Vajhoj From: "David Lamb" To: Arne Vajhoj From: "David Lamb" To: Arne Vajhoj From: David Lamb On 26/07/2012 2:47 PM, Arne Vajhoj wrote: > > Whether some code is valid in the Java language and its semantics > are obviously defined by the JLS. > > But Java comes with a baggage of history, philosophy, > traditions and lessons learned. In support of Arne: I know a programming language semanticist (whom one might think was only interested in formalizable stuff) say that languages also had "pragmatics", which include all the sorts of things Arne listed. I think one could use the word "culture" too. -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24