Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!news-out.news.tds.net!newsreading01.news.tds.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "David Lamb" Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Message-ID: <5012E6BE.55399.calajapr@time.synchro.net> X-Comment-To: Arne Vajhøj Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer X-FTN-AREA: COMP.LANG.JAVA.PROGRAMMER X-FTN-MSGID: 1:261/38 fe6069db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM437 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gateway: time.synchro.net [Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98] Lines: 30 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:42:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65 X-Complaints-To: news@tds.net X-Trace: newsreading01.news.tds.net 1343418161 69.21.70.65 (Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:42:41 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:42:41 CDT Organization: tds.net X-Received-Bytes: 1889 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:16428 To: Arne Vajhøj From: "David Lamb" To: Arne Vajhoj From: David Lamb On 26/07/2012 2:47 PM, Arne Vajhoj wrote: > > Whether some code is valid in the Java language and its semantics > are obviously defined by the JLS. > > But Java comes with a baggage of history, philosophy, > traditions and lessons learned. In support of Arne: I know a programming language semanticist (whom one might think was only interested in formalizable stuff) say that languages also had "pragmatics", which include all the sorts of things Arne listed. I think one could use the word "culture" too. -+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) -+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24 --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38) --- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98 Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24