Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!exi-transit.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!exi-spool.telstra.net!exi-reader.telstra.net!not-for-mail Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 15:23:44 +1000 From: Esmond Pitt Reply-To: not.esmond.pitt@not.bigpond.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Java generics and type erasure References: <9d4c2b16-beb5-40b1-87a2-f03e971efeed@k17g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> <4dde10b0$0$67777$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <4ddf0617$0$67777$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> <3f7c1f48-f025-48af-b6bd-20463f6651db@e13g2000vbo.googlegroups.com> <4ddf5c23$0$67779$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4de329e1$0$89995$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 120.151.14.51 X-Trace: 1306733025 exi-reader.telstra.net 89995 120.151.14.51:46444 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4716 On 28/05/2011 12:22 AM, Lew wrote: > I said that the > runtime phenomenon is the static state of generics HAVING ALREADY BEEN > ERASED SOMETIME *PRIOR*. It's the *static* state to which I refer. That static state is created at compile time. It exists prior to runtime. Runtime may never occur. Ergo it doesn't make any sense to regard it as a runtime phenomenon. Ontologically speaking.