Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Aspect questions? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:09:00 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 47 Message-ID: <26456804.7036.1331154540669.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcwi5> References: <4f4a6b1d$0$290$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.28.149.29 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1331154541 31989 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2012 21:09:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 21:09:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=69.28.149.29; posting-account=CP-lKQoAAAAGtB5diOuGlDQk0jIwmH0T User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Received-Bytes: 3845 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:12747 Novice wrote: > Lew wrote: >> Novice wrote: >>> Yikes! One of my great nightmares is the prospect of having to do >>> that. I can imagine you pulling it off since you do believe strongly >>> in yourself but I don't have that. The prospect of having to live by >>> sweet-talking people into buying things that they probably don't want >>> or need - and maybe can't afford - is very distasteful to me.... >>=20 >> There you go with your assumptions again. >=20 > > And these could be construed as insulting. I did no such thing. >>=20 >=20 > Sorry, no insult intended! I suppose I just projected because having to d= o=20 > sales of something like vaccuum cleaners is MY nightmare..... Do you use a vacuum cleaner? Did you buy it? Should that be a nightmare for= the one who sold it to you? Are you glad you have it? > I'm glad you've never been in that position. I suppose your sales job was= =20 > something like helping sell advanced technical services or software. Mortgages. Why do you continue with those assumptions? It was neither technical servic= es nor software, nor "helping" to sell. Straight up selling, on straight co= mmission, no base pay. > I've actually been peripherally involved in activities like that and did= =20 > fine with them. But the thought of cold-calling people to sell some gener= al=20 > bit of merchandise, either on the phone or door-to-door is definitely=20 > nightmare-inducing for me. That's because you don't understand sales. I have done both door-to-door an= d telephone sales work, also professional-to-professional sales, and been a= waiter. Sales is a service profession, not a coercive one. You make your m= oney by helping people reduce pain and increase happiness. Why should that cause anyone to have nightmares? --=20 Lew