Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.chainon-marquant.org!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!198.186.194.247.MISMATCH!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Interplatform (interprocess, interlanguage) communication Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:18:45 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 61 Message-ID: <25948047.523.1329020325607.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbqv10> References: <4f332c6d$0$288$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4f345b64$0$291$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4217698.319.1328892670179.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcwg4> <4f36c705$0$294$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 173.164.137.214 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1329020417 11347 127.0.0.1 (12 Feb 2012 04:20:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:20:17 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=173.164.137.214; posting-account=CP-lKQoAAAAGtB5diOuGlDQk0jIwmH0T User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:11960 BGB wrote: > Arne Vajh=F8j wrote: > > LIBXML2 works fine on Windows, so you can use it on both platforms. > > >=20 > yeah, it is an option. > however, it is not a standard library on Windows (in certain cases, one= =20 First you spend half a newsgroup thread decrying standards and=20 proudly boasting how you flout them, now you suddenly denigrate a=20 library for not being standard? And yes, libxml2 is, too, standard, as such things go. > may need to provide for it, or expect anyone who wants to build from=20 > source to provide for it, ...). "provide for it"? > >> but, anyways, it is like asking a person never to write their own JPEG > >> loader/saver, or their own scripting-language compiler. yes, maybe a > >> person doesn't technically need to, but they may forsake potentially > >> valuable learning experiences (or the claim to having the skills to do > >> so). > > > > I think you should very clearly distinguish between when you talk about > > learning and programming production code. > > > > The goals are just so different. > > >=20 > in my case, both often end up being the same code. So you don't write code for someone else? > one may end up doing something initially as a learning activity, but if= =20 > one does so, and the code works fairly well, why write the same code=20 > again?... Asked and answered upthread. Don't cycle. > granted, being a programmer working for a corporation or something, vs=20 > being an independent game developer, could also be a factor. If no one but you ever looks at your code or has to maintain it,=20 you can be as idiosyncratic and antisocial as you like. I know=20 people who've lived alone so long they cannot maintain a civil=20 discourse in public. Their habits don't bother them when they're=20 home alone, but that doesn't make them optimal. Most of your arguments sound like apologetics for undisciplined,=20 egocentric programming with little connection to facts or the real=20 world of the workaday programmer, or the costs thereof. Heck, you=20 haven't even answered the question as to what the costs of software=20 development are. --=20 Lew