Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.42!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Static type checking: hybrid mode in Groovy Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:23:45 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 47 Message-ID: <17804106.47.1321629825213.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prfx4> References: <61e17074-e229-4303-a549-2389ccf502d3@m10g2000vbc.googlegroups.com> <70683.45.1321550905474.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prms22> Reply-To: comp.lang.java.programmer@googlegroups.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 173.164.137.214 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1321629913 29002 127.0.0.1 (18 Nov 2011 15:25:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:25:13 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=173.164.137.214; posting-account=CP-lKQoAAAAGtB5diOuGlDQk0jIwmH0T User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:10043 On Friday, November 18, 2011 2:32:56 AM UTC-8, Roedy Green wrote: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:25 -0800 (PST), Lew > wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >=20 > >Conciseness is overrated >=20 > What sort of apps do you write? Over my lifetime I have done a bit of Everything imaginable over the years, from device drivers to web apps to en= terprise apps to desktop apps to GUI-driven apps to middleware to back-end = components to Android mobile apps. FORTRAN, assembler, C, C++, SQL, Java a= nd others for programming languages, plus a fair amount of things like shel= l, Perl, Javascript and such for scripting. (I forbear to mention JCL.) M= ainframes, minicomputers, PCs, mobile, embedded. Big shops, solo programme= r, government agencies, private businesses. =20 > everything from device drivers, to a Forth engine, to new methods of I haven't written a Forth engine but I've written some toy Forth programs. > solving differential equations to online banking. That experience Similar. I've worked on scientific, financial, health-care, government and= private-industry apps. > gives me a right to an opinion about how Java fits into the overall > scheme of things. Yes, it would do that. And ...? We all have the right to an opinion about how Java fits into the overall sc= heme of things, even those of us with minimal experience. The question is = whether our opinion has merit. Yours does, AFAICT. My experience is also quite extensive. > I have talked with Bill Joy and watched Mr. Gosling lecture. I think I > understand what makes them tick. They are both very intelligent people > who have no interest whatsoever in process of cranking out guis.=20 So? I'm sorry, Roedy, but how does all this tie in to this discussion? --=20 Lew