Re: basic learning path

From	Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.java.programmer, comp.lang.java.help
Subject	Re: basic learning path
Date	2019-03-14 16:21 -0400
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 3/14/2019 3:46 PM, dale wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A little while ago I asked some questions about java.
> 
> It was said that I should learn an IDE.

     IIRC the gist was that if you are a professional programmer in
an organization that uses Java, it follows that you *will* use an
IDE -- specifically, whatever IDE the organization has adopted.
You will also use idiosyncratic tweaks (perhaps) and conventions
(for sure) specific to that organization.

     If you're just beginning to learn Java itself, I suggest that
you avoid IDE's and concentrate entirely on Java.  IDE's are big,
intricate, powerful tools that come with their own non-negligible
learning curves, and someone new to both the IDE and to Java is
likely to encounter a good deal of confusion.  (A thread ongoing
at this moment deals with strategies for adjusting one's Java code
to silence an IDE's spurious complaints -- a beginner encountering
such a situation may well have a hard time distinguishing between
what Java requires and what some IDE wants.)

     Once your grasp of Java is fairly secure you should start
acquainting yourself with an IDE.  But I'd recommend avoiding the
IDE while your grasp is still shaky.

> I would like to learn all the ingredients that go into an IDE first.
> Enough to code a robust program.

     Sorry; I'm not sure what you mean by "the ingredients."

> As I said before I know the basics of object oriented architecture,
> design, and programming.
> 
> Are there some web tutorials that will walk me through the
> ingredients?

     There are certainly tutorials on the Java language, and there
are tutorials on how to use the popular IDE's, if that's what you
mean by "the ingredients."  GIYF on both accounts.

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basic learning path dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2019-03-14 15:46 -0400
  Re: basic learning path Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2019-03-14 16:21 -0400
    Re: basic learning path Daniele Futtorovic <da.futt.news@laposte-dot-net.invalid> - 2019-03-16 15:07 +0100
    Re: basic learning path Graeme Geldenhuys <graemeg@example.net> - 2019-03-29 16:57 +0000
  Re: basic learning path Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2019-03-14 19:38 -0400
    Re: basic learning path Graeme Geldenhuys <graemeg@example.net> - 2019-03-29 17:00 +0000
  Re: basic learning path drlmccoymd@gmail.com - 2019-07-06 16:28 -0700

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