Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.help Subject: Re: Off Topic: Contract To Hire? Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:46:53 -0400 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <8c7004ea-2601-49a7-8d3a-a753792192db@34g2000pru.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net DTRXrdTOnw8ArXX56Z6mULs+y6uk3njQEKsFC/JezzCvntyscMDAydPgLQkWSgJ8nZg1pW6meGY9PQixR0ckUg== NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="9+6iNACvxTN95RHcLTCiHus6qbfkjUyEbwLfWtHEdrKgDjw63R39dRGkIrUkXTyvHff07rp02so3RyJRb6GSenU+Uzg6BexVVD1wm2lBj60DJOck0m3lJhKS8r2AM4z8"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 In-Reply-To: <8c7004ea-2601-49a7-8d3a-a753792192db@34g2000pru.googlegroups.com> Cancel-Lock: sha1:BCuEXd1QlNlbkoUTL6B51J3vCsk= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.help:655 Steve wrote: > I'm not really sure where else to get an opinion on this topic, which > is not strictly about Java programming. If you know of a better This is for Java programm*ers*, not programm*ing*. Your question is entirely on topic. > place I am open to suggestions. If you do not know of a better place > please accept my apologies for disturbing you and posting it here. > > I'm looking for a new job. > > A number of places are "contract to hire". Typically 6 months on > contract, then hired. I've never done that type of job before. My > concern is that I will end up looking for work again in 6 moths to a > year. The places that I have talked to told me that companies do > this to avoid some head hunter fees and some other fees. My They don't really avoid fees, and you have no less risk of being unemployed in 6 months with a "regular" job. > suspicion is that they do it to get rid of an employee who they feel > lukewarm about with less less expense ( do contract to hire people get > unemployment if it doesn't work out ). All of the headhunters I Unemployment insurance is regulated at the state level. Why don't you ask your state's office of employment instead of a world-wide bunch of programmers who are not unemployment experts? > have talked to have told me that the companies they are selling for > usually hire permanently and this just a way of saving some money. I > realize that they are trying to sell me something and that may just be > a pitch. Well, aren't you trying to sell them something? > Any opinions. What is the real deal with "contract to hire" > positions.....or is there one? Sure there is - the real deal is that you're on contract for a while, then direct with the employer for a while, where "a while" might be zero time. Just like any other job. > Is it the case that each company or job is different with no general > trends? No. -- Lew Honi soit qui mal y pense. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg