Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.11.MISMATCH!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.help Subject: Re: Enum basics Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 09:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 48 Message-ID: <16418512.328.1320509703473.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prap37> References: <3bo8b7dd306f6pj50v2jk3t9704n1c0cjp@4ax.com> <21054701.30.1320463633638.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prog16> <6at9b7tui212h2jvfmdkka5antnsme1qjb@4ax.com> Reply-To: comp.lang.java.help@googlegroups.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 173.164.137.213 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1320509807 6475 127.0.0.1 (5 Nov 2011 16:16:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:16:47 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <6at9b7tui212h2jvfmdkka5antnsme1qjb@4ax.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=173.164.137.213; posting-account=CP-lKQoAAAAGtB5diOuGlDQk0jIwmH0T User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.help:1291 Roedy Green wrote: > Lew wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >> Why *not* read the JLS? >=20 > see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jls.html for why it is not sufficient. >=20 > But happily we have a resource, you, a person who has infinite > confidence in their ability to divine the intentions of the JLS > authors, and who is nearly always correct. >=20 > The problem is the cost of submitting a question to the Oracle, not > the company, is to accept a verbal beating for not possessing the > same skill. Apparently you chose to ignore my post: >> As for my post upthread, the "you" there was the generalized "you, the= =20 >> reader", not you the poster. I was writing a post, not an email, so wha= t=20 >> I said was not meant for anyone to take personally but in the spirit of = an >> essay.=20 >>=20 >> Just in case, you know.=20 in favor of disparaging the helpful advice. We all know that you like to d= iscourage newbies from going to the source with B.S. like you put in the re= ferenced link. Were the cited passages and code examples on this matter re= ally so very hard to understand, Roedy? You do Java programmers, especially nedwer ones, a tremendous disservice wi= th your strange campaign against one of the most fundamental tools, and the= most authoritative one, to understand the language, the Java Language Spec= ification. Your irrational and damaging campaign against the JLS needs to = stop. I would think with all your self-promotion as a champion of newbies = and purveyor of programming pedagogy that you would be joining me in the ef= fort to make the JLS available, explicable and useful to everyone.=20 But, no. Shame on you, Roedy. Contrary to the crap you put forward, Roedy, you don't have to be a "langua= ge lawyer" to understand the cited passages, either. Just a programmer.=20 Are you a programmer? --=20 Lew