Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Roedy Green Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.help Subject: Firefox and Java Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:25:00 -0800 Organization: Canadian Mind Products Lines: 20 Message-ID: <0iakb7h9dters94kjfi52fe57dc3n4f87u@4ax.com> Reply-To: Roedy Green NNTP-Posting-Host: Z2l1DcCELS0rATq8NqV4Sw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.help:1306 There is a new version, Firefox 8.0, is out , the only catch is it does not support Java. Presumably it will later when they get an updated plug-in. Similarly the current version of Chrome 15.0.874.106 does not support Java. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products http://mindprod.com Capitalism has spurred the competition that makes CPUs faster and faster each year, but the focus on money makes software manufacturers do some peculiar things like deliberately leaving bugs and deficiencies in the software so they can soak the customers for upgrades later. Whether software is easy to use, or never loses data, when the company has a near monopoly, is almost irrelevant to profits, and therefore ignored. The manufacturer focuses on cheap gimicks like dancing paper clips to dazzle naive first-time buyers. The needs of existing experienced users are almost irrelevant. I see software rental as the best remedy.