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| Date | 2013-07-20 11:15 -1000 |
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| From | "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> |
| Organization | FORTH, Inc. |
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.forth |
| Subject | Re: Request for comments on a first forth program |
| References | <87wqomga80.fsf@pestilenz.org> <1vadnThanLkJ4HTMnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@supernews.com> <87d2qdj9od.fsf@necronomicon.my.domain> |
| Message-ID | <weSdnSvuC990YHfMnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@supernews.com> (permalink) |
On 7/20/13 9:47 AM, Christian Kellermann wrote: > "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> writes: > ... >>> * Redundant code due to my ignorance of the forth metaprogramming >>> facilities. I need to read up on these. >> >> Not sure what you mean. I don't see any instances of that sort. > > The #teleports and #moves words for example are similar except for the > actual variable word. That actually brings up an interesting design issue. You have #moves and #teleports defined as VALUES. If they were VARIABLES, you could just say, e.g., -1 #moves +! which would hardly be worth defining as a word. Choosing between a VALUE and a VARIABLE really doesn't matter a lot, but VARIABLES are a slight win if you store into them roughly as much as you fetch from them, while VALUEs are a slight win if most references are reads. ... >> My biggest criticism is that you have some words without stack >> comments, and Marcel reports stuff is being left on the stack. When >> you are testing your code, it is essential that you check that every >> word conforms to its stack comment behavior, and that nothing is left >> on the stack that shouldn't be. > > Yes, others also suggested this, even with some safe guards. As I have > written elsewhere in this thread I tested my words interactively but I > did not test them for their stack hygiene (If you can call it that). And > I imagine that this is a major blunder for any "real" application and > causes a lot of grief and sorrow, if not just in debugging time. *Always* check your stack after executing a word during testing! It's essential that there be nothing left except its explicit results. Random stuff left on the stack will bite you sooner or later. Cheers, Elizabeth -- ================================================== Elizabeth D. Rather (US & Canada) 800-55-FORTH FORTH Inc. +1 310.999.6784 5959 West Century Blvd. Suite 700 Los Angeles, CA 90045 http://www.forth.com "Forth-based products and Services for real-time applications since 1973." ==================================================
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Re: Request for comments on a first forth program "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-07-25 21:40 -1000
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Re: Request for comments on a first forth program hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-07-31 17:50 -0700
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Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@necronomicon.my.domain> - 2013-07-20 21:24 +0200
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Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@necronomicon.my.domain> - 2013-07-20 21:34 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-07-19 07:19 -0700
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Re: Request for comments on a first forth program "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-07-19 07:55 -1000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@necronomicon.my.domain> - 2013-07-20 21:47 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-07-20 11:15 -1000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-07-20 20:09 -0700
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Re: Request for comments on a first forth program albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-07-20 12:36 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@necronomicon.my.domain> - 2013-07-20 21:53 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2013-07-21 02:02 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-07-20 17:18 -1000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Ian Osgood <iano@quirkster.com> - 2013-07-23 16:07 -0700
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@necronomicon.my.domain> - 2013-07-20 21:48 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-07-20 12:18 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@necronomicon.my.domain> - 2013-07-20 21:57 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-07-20 11:24 -1000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@pestilenz.org> - 2013-07-22 15:53 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2013-07-22 08:06 -0700
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-07-22 19:35 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program m.a.m.hendrix@tue.nl - 2013-07-23 00:41 -0700
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@pestilenz.org> - 2013-07-23 12:00 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-07-23 12:10 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@pestilenz.org> - 2013-07-23 14:19 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-07-24 09:27 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-07-23 13:44 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-07-20 20:02 -0700
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-07-21 03:36 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program hughaguilar96@yahoo.com - 2013-07-20 22:28 -0700
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-07-21 10:31 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2013-07-20 23:41 -0400
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2013-07-22 15:36 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Lars Brinkhoff <lars.spam@nocrew.org> - 2013-07-23 12:22 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program Christian Kellermann <ckeen@pestilenz.org> - 2013-07-23 13:44 +0200
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2013-07-23 12:26 +0000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2013-07-23 07:10 -1000
Re: Request for comments on a first forth program stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2013-07-24 09:30 +0000
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