Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Paul E. Bennett" Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Don't Fall in Love With Your Technology Followup-To: comp.lang.forth Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:43:01 +0000 Organization: Hidecs Consultancy Lines: 30 Message-ID: <9qft5cFb40U1@mid.individual.net> References: <8e4d1e51-06cc-4003-9530-6e11bb23c2e8@i10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <59e870a4-a045-4a92-a641-38bea4b3acc3@pw4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <9qbt1bFureU1@mid.individual.net> <4f40e278$0$6579$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <9qc9dqFs5qU1@mid.individual.net> <4f410368$0$283$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Reply-To: Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: individual.net ba+tHw37i69oBti88bm8rAGOUHjG2+B6azCUa2lbcI3fX45+Do Cancel-Lock: sha1:M2AuafLk8PBCzlmuFCfLgaviUXA= Mail-Copies-To: Paul_E.Bennett@topmail.co.uk User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.forth:9634 Doug Hoffman wrote: > On 2/19/12 7:47 AM, Paul E. Bennett wrote: > > >> Of each age, people become skilled in the tools they have available. When >> training the apprentices that come through my department I like to get >> them to experience some of the older tools as well so that they can >> really appreciate and properly evaluate the more modern ones. > > You made them do calculations with slide rules? That is cruel and > unusual punishment! Try and get your youngsters in the habit of doing some mathematics in their head (just an approximation) so that they can at least check the detailed answer given by the possibly errant software. I also include some work with relay circuits and they get some time with simple PLC's as well. The tasks require that they also think about failure modes of what they are asked to control. They can eventually graduate to the modern tools like Eclipse and but from a much better grounded viewpoint. -- ******************************************************************** Paul E. Bennett............... Forth based HIDECS Consultancy Mob: +44 (0)7811-639972 Tel: +44 (0)1235-510979 Going Forth Safely ..... EBA. www.electric-boat-association.org.uk.. ********************************************************************