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From: cas_news@strotmann.de (Carsten Strotmann (Usenet))
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Subject: Re: GPL
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:48:32 +0100
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Aleksej Saushev <asau@inbox.ru> writes:

> Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes:
>
>> Rod Pemberton wrote:
>>> Let's also disregard the fact that the
>>> FOSS is killing the commercial market for programmers and leaving them
>>> without jobs or food.
>>
>> Let's disregard that RedHat managed to cross the 1 billion dollar 
>> revenue in 2011.
>
> Have you got any other example besides RedHat? How many of them?
> Bringing extremely rare exception to example doesn't prove anything.
>
> Besides, what is the structure of revenue? Does it come from programming
> or from system administration?

Well, I make a good living around open source software with training and
some programming.

I also know a good number of companies that also make good money with
open source software:

* Univention: http://www.univention.de/
* MariaDB (and previously MySQL DB): http://askmonty.org/
* Freiheit.com: http://www.freiheit.com/ (with bookzilla.de one of the
 main sponsors of FSFe)
* LinuxHotel: linuxhotel.de (Open Source Training)
* PowerDNS - got successful after open-sourcing a former closed source
product (www.powerdns.com)
* Internet Systems Consortium - BIND and ISC DHCPd, among other software
* NlNetLabs 
* Zimbra 
* Mozilla
* Canonical (Ubuntu Linux)
* Digium (Asterisk PBX)
.....

the list goes on and on. There is as much money on open source software
than there is in closed source. It just needs some nderstanding of the
customers needs and a slightly different mindset.

-- Carsten