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Re: Forth Performance Question

From Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Forth Performance Question
Date 2011-08-12 02:10 -0500
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"Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> writes:

> "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> wrote in message
> news:OM2dnfp9muWFzNnTnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@supernews.com...
>> [...]
>> Everything else involved in learning Forth
>> consists of developing a vocabulary of words, for which you must
>> remember what arguments they take and what results they return.
>>
>
> "for which you must remember ..."  That's a serious enough deficiency that
> one should adopt C.  Those are documented for us ...
>
> If I haven't used a C function somewhat recently, I have to look up it's
> arguments.  That's after many years of C, and with an excellent memory.
> You're telling me that Forth requires you remember all the arguments to all
> the functions you use?  How do you use a larger library?  I'm assuming you
> must have a reference manual, ANSI spec, book, or personal notes that
> you use to keep track of the parameters for larger sets of Forth words.
>
>
> Rod Pemberton

I'll interpret this as a roundabout way of asking "hey, how do Forth
programmers look up the usage of a word?"  As a slap isn't an option.

1. LOCATE <word> and then EDIT , to first get the stack comment and then
   pull up the file in which a word is defined, for context.

2. dpANS, reference manual, library documentation, etc.

3. Editor extensions to perform #1 or #2 on a word.

4. System environment extensions (e.g., right-clicking on a selected
   word) to perform #1 or #2.

So, nothing special.  Although LOCATE EDIT is a godly combo.

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Forth Performance Question TS <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-06 20:43 -0700
  Re: Forth Performance Question "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-07 01:02 -0400
    Re: Forth Performance Question Chris Hinsley <chris.hinsley@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 12:09 +0100
      Re: Forth Performance Question stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-08-16 14:08 +0000
  Re: Forth Performance Question mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2011-08-07 07:45 +0200
    Re: Forth Performance Question anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-07 16:18 +0000
  Re: Forth Performance Question Bruno Gauthier <bgauthier@free.fr> - 2011-08-07 07:53 +0200
  Re: Forth Performance Question Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2011-08-07 01:01 -0500
  Re: Forth Performance Question Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-08-07 12:50 +0000
  Re: Forth Performance Question stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-08-07 11:46 +0000
  Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-10 17:03 +0000
    Re: Forth Performance Question Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2011-08-10 13:35 -0500
      Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 15:05 +0000
        Re: Forth Performance Question anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-11 16:26 +0000
          Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-12 08:15 +0000
            Re: Forth Performance Question "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-11 22:29 -1000
              Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-12 10:09 +0000
                Re: Forth Performance Question Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2011-08-12 08:15 -0500
            Re: Forth Performance Question anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-08-12 09:31 +0000
        Re: Forth Performance Question crc <charles.childers@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 10:27 -0700
        Re: Forth Performance Question Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 13:18 -0500
        Re: Forth Performance Question "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-11 12:00 -1000
          Re: Forth Performance Question Howerd <howerdo@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-11 15:13 -0700
          Re: Forth Performance Question Charles Childers <crc_nospam@retroforth.org> - 2011-08-11 20:52 -0400
          Re: Forth Performance Question "Rod Pemberton" <do_not_have@noavailemail.cmm> - 2011-08-12 02:19 -0400
            Re: Forth Performance Question Julian Fondren <ayrnieu@gmail.com> - 2011-08-12 02:10 -0500
              Re: Forth Performance Question "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-11 21:48 -1000
            Re: Forth Performance Question "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-11 21:41 -1000
          Re: Forth Performance Question Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-23 18:52 -0700
    Re: Forth Performance Question Charles Childers <crc_nospam@retroforth.org> - 2011-08-10 23:33 -0400
      Re: Forth Performance Question Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 08:59 +0300
      Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 13:48 +0000
        Re: Forth Performance Question Charles Childers <crc@retroforth.org> - 2011-08-11 10:30 -0400
    Re: Forth Performance Question Ron Aaron <rambamist@gmail.com> - 2011-08-11 08:46 +0300
    Re: Forth Performance Question arc <arc@vorsicht-bissig.de> - 2011-08-12 12:20 +0000
      Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-12 13:59 +0000
        Re: Forth Performance Question stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-08-12 15:11 +0000
          Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-12 17:49 +0000
            Re: Forth Performance Question stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-08-12 19:38 +0000
            Re: Forth Performance Question "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-12 12:41 -1000
              Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-13 03:35 +0000
                Re: Forth Performance Question "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-08-12 17:52 -1000
                Re: Forth Performance Question Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-12 23:55 -0700
                Re: Forth Performance Question Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-08-14 09:01 +0000
                Re: Forth Performance Question Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-08-14 01:36 -0700
                Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-15 01:43 +0000
                Re: Forth Performance Question Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-15 16:59 -0700
                Re: Forth Performance Question Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-08-16 03:25 -0700
                Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-16 11:22 +0000
                Re: Forth Performance Question Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-16 14:37 -0700
                Re: Forth Performance Question Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-08-19 14:11 +0000
                Re: Forth Performance Question Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-22 19:52 -0700
            Re: Forth Performance Question Zbiggy <zbigniew2011REMOVE@gmail.REMOVE.com> - 2011-08-13 02:28 +0200
        Re: Forth Performance Question Zbiggy <zbigniew2011REMOVE@gmail.REMOVE.com> - 2011-08-12 20:53 +0200

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