Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx05.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Rubin Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: i finally get the messes caused by re using code Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:46:55 -0700 Organization: Nightsong/Fort GNOX Lines: 20 Message-ID: <7xd2tkmnmo.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> References: <65310ea9-5d1c-459d-87de-1c9d9a3e239f@googlegroups.com> <1bcf8c14-dfeb-42ff-a9a5-fbf859e00249@oy9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> <19ecc105-58e6-4b34-bde9-d2b6aded5894@googlegroups.com> <5173ae0e$0$1382$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com> <27c7c5f2-b4a1-4f9e-a1d8-a5761cc251a7@googlegroups.com> <5173e14f$0$7589$c3e8da3$12bcf670@news.astraweb.com> <7xehe31ltm.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <5174cd11$0$743$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com> <2013Apr22.124031@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="d94d289a4df6ae47ea4d4f8b2ae808e7"; logging-data="27847"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+3zdy06dQp0xpA+Qzj/8vU" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cziCpoTLgAO09soMykw4RJITawo= sha1:lncVCaPMX8Ilp+dB+mILz4IUQzI= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.forth:21849 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes: > Hmm, looking at the programming language syntax of Lisp, the same can > be said about "the right thing". So maybe "the right thing" is just > Gabriel's way to have a good feeling about the lack of popularity of > his favourite language and design philosophy. But Lispers really do seem to think Lisp's syntax is the right thing. Or at any rate, they see syntax as a superficial part of the language, and they worked harder on stuff like the exception system, which other languages get further wrong. It's also come back to me, the "Worse is better" text that I linked was actually excerpted from a larger article about the state of Lisp around 1990: http://dreamsongs.com/WIB.html The author also wrote a couple of follow-ups, described here: http://dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html