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Re: LatestXT

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Subject Re: LatestXT
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
References (5 earlier) <jbvblu$mu5$1@dont-email.me> <2011Dec10.123907@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <jc01h1$12b$1@dont-email.me> <jc0l03$33t$1@online.de> <jc14qu$p1u$1@dont-email.me>
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Date 2011-12-11 10:21 +0000
Message-ID <2011Dec11.112157@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)

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Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> writes:
>On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:03:46 +0100, Bernd Paysan wrote:
>When TEST executes, it executes :NONAME first, which puts the colon-sys 
>on the stack and switches over to *compilation* state. This is crystal 
>clear from the '94 Spec. Yes, I know the colon-sys is implementation 
>dependent. Also clear from the spec. 
>
>The issue I have is that now forth is in *compilation* state. Shouldn't 
>the text parser parse the input stream *immediately*, before moving on to 
>the next word in TEST? 

No.  Compilation state is just a state of a variable.  It just
modifies the behaviour of words that read the variable, in particular
the text interpreter.  But the word that's currently running is TEST,
and this word does not change what it does depending on STATE.  So it
continues, performing .S and then the run-time semantics of ";".  The
latter returns execution to the text interpreter, which then performs
the compilation semantics of the words in the input stream.

>As an analogy, the words [ and ] immediately switch the forth between 
>interpretative and compilation states.

They also just change the state, and they change it when they are
executed (in particular, ] is not immediate, and [ can be POSTPONEd or
ticked).  The effect of this state change also only affects words that
read the state, in particular the text interpreter.

- anton
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LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-09 02:42 +0000
  Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-09 03:43 -0600
    Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-09 13:12 +0000
    Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-09 13:26 +0000
      Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-09 12:41 -0600
        Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-10 12:24 +0000
          Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-10 12:04 -0600
            Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-11 11:02 +0000
              Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-11 12:21 -0600
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-12 17:35 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-13 05:19 -0600
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-13 15:12 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-13 11:55 -0600
          Re: LatestXT Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2011-12-15 16:30 -0800
            Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-16 17:11 +0000
              Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-16 16:15 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-17 03:22 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-17 15:34 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2011-12-17 08:04 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-17 17:20 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-17 12:38 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-18 04:01 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-17 22:06 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-18 11:47 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-18 08:51 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-19 01:14 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-18 18:59 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-18 04:40 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-18 11:31 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-18 06:21 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-18 12:55 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-19 03:27 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2011-12-18 07:21 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-19 01:02 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Krishna Myneni <krishna.myneni@ccreweb.org> - 2011-12-18 17:32 -0800
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-17 09:43 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-12-19 20:40 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-17 09:38 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-18 01:08 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-18 01:38 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Coos Haak <chforth@hccnet.nl> - 2011-12-18 13:13 +0100
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-18 08:55 -0800
      Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-09 09:36 -1000
      Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-10 03:24 +0000
        Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-09 20:12 -0800
        Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-09 18:15 -1000
          Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-10 10:18 +0000
            Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-10 11:39 +0000
              Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-10 16:31 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-10 23:03 +0100
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-11 02:34 +0000
                Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-10 18:01 -1000
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-11 09:46 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-11 03:55 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-11 11:35 +0000
                Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-11 10:59 -1000
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 02:19 +0000
                Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-11 17:38 -1000
                Re: LatestXT Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-12 13:22 +0100
                Re: LatestXT stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-12-12 10:34 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 12:32 +0000
                Re: LatestXT stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-12-12 14:55 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 16:18 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-12 09:09 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 17:51 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-12 12:03 -0600
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-12 10:51 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 12:16 +0000
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-13 15:11 +0000
                Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-13 08:00 -1000
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-12 18:18 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-11 13:26 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-12 03:51 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 11:14 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-12 05:37 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 12:54 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-11 11:05 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Josh Grams <josh@qualdan.com> - 2011-12-11 23:25 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-11 16:58 -0800
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-12 17:21 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Josh Grams <josh@qualdan.com> - 2011-12-12 21:50 +0000
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-13 16:44 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Gerry Jackson <gerry@jackson9000.fsnet.co.uk> - 2011-12-13 22:13 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-13 11:46 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-13 04:28 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-14 05:40 +0000
                Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-13 21:24 -1000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-14 04:05 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Mark Wills <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2011-12-20 03:48 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-20 08:59 -0600
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-12 03:21 +0000
                Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-11 17:52 -1000
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-12 12:41 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-12 15:00 +0100
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-12 09:37 -0800
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-11 10:43 +0000
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-11 10:21 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-12-12 12:58 +0100
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-11 03:35 -0600
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-11 10:47 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-12 03:54 -0600
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-12 17:20 +0000
                Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-12 11:53 -0600
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-10 14:21 -0800
                Re: LatestXT Arnold Doray <thinksquared@gmail.com> - 2011-12-11 02:37 +0000
                Re: LatestXT BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-12-11 11:13 -0800
                Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-11 11:25 +0000
                Re: LatestXT "Elizabeth D. Rather" <erather@forth.com> - 2011-12-11 08:55 -1000
        Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-10 02:49 -0600
          Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-10 12:06 +0000
            Re: LatestXT Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-12-10 12:11 -0600
          Re: LatestXT Josh Grams <josh@qualdan.com> - 2011-12-10 12:33 +0000
      Re: LatestXT Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-12-10 18:52 +0000
        Re: LatestXT anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-12-11 10:50 +0000

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