Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Thompson Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: widening multiplication Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:40:48 -0700 Organization: None to speak of Lines: 44 Message-ID: <87h7ss3vcv.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> References: <9tf%G.53437$5l1.20978@fx10.iad> <20200822212226.239@kylheku.com> <20200823182120.305@kylheku.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="9cbdf7872d7f01824d83559dee7b0ca9"; logging-data="5254"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/1GgMRkeL0mFHhf2juSqma" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Wfs/GQKNOVvWXuHH8xXhAWhiU1E= sha1:dO1qWtnDMHw+kUnVjbehOaWMrns= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.c:153991 James Kuyper writes: > On 8/24/20 2:19 AM, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >> On Mon, 2020-08-24, James Kuyper wrote: >>> On 8/23/20 11:00 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote: >>>> On 2020-08-23, James Kuyper wrote: >>>>> That is precisely the original definition of a troll. To understand the >>>>> noun better, look at the corresponding verb: >>>>> , definition #8. It was >>>>> originally derived from definition #4, where the inflammatory material >>>>> is metaphorically considered to be a kind of bait. >>>> >>>> My point is that if the people being baited are complete idiots in >>>> falling for it, then it isn't not True Scotsman's trolling. >>> >>> I have to disagree - nothing is more typical of a true troll than the >>> belief that their victims are idiots for falling for it. >> >> All this is a minor disagreement IMHO, given that people are regularly >> being called trolls, when their intention is obviously not to disrupt. > > I no longer have any doubt that Scott Newman and Daniel Hyde both > deliberately posts blatantly incorrect statements for the sole purpose > of disrupting this group by either misleading newbies or prompting > experts to waste their time correcting his errors. Do you? > > I gave Daniel Hyde the benefit of the doubt when he actually bothered > responding to one criticism, even though I has strong doubts about > whether he was really redeemable, but only because it is my policy to > give people some limited opportunities to correct a bad impression > they've made on me. > > Bonita, on the other hand, appears to merely be someone with strong and > incorrect ideas who pays no attention to counter arguments other than to > rudely dismiss them. She's obnoxious, and I'd be glad see her > obnoxiousness disappear (whether or not she herself disappears), but I > don't call her a troll. And I'm sure that they're all *delighted* that we're spending time arguing about the definition of "troll". Let's not. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */