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Re: printf and time_t

From Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: printf and time_t
Date 2026-02-17 23:11 -0800
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Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>
>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> I recently played around with an attempted framework using _Generic.
>>> The goal was to be able to write something like
>>>
>>>     print(s(x), s(y), s(z));
>>>
>>> where x, y, and z can be of more or less arbitrary types (integer,
>>> floating-point char*).  The problem I ran into was that only one of
>>> the generic associations is evaluated (which one is determined at
>>> compile time), but *all* of them have to be valid code.
>>
>> That is annoying but it shouldn't be too hard to work around
>> it.  To verify that hypothesis I wrote this test case:
>>
>>
>>         #include <stdio.h>
>>         #include <time.h>
>>         #include <stdint.h>
>>
>>         #include "h/show.h"
>>
>>         int
>>         main(){
>
> [30 lines deleted]
>
>>             show(
>>                 uc,sc,us,ss,ui,si,ul,sl,ull,sll,
>>                 c,f,d,ld,yes,no,u16,s16,uge32,sge32,
>>                 runtime,now,offset,uf32,sf32,
>>                 c * now / 1e8 * ld,
>>                 foo, bas
>>             );
>>             printf( "\n" );
>>
>>             return  0;
>>         }
>>
>> which compiles under C11 and (along with the show.h include file)
>> produces output:
>>
>>                   uc = 255
>>                   sc = -1
>>                   us = 65535
>
> [23 lines deleted]
>
>>                  foo = "foo"
>>                  bas = (const char *) "bas"
>
> Were you planning to show us what show.h looks like?

I posted what I thought showed the essential elements of what I
was trying to convey.  I don't want to get dragged into a
discussion of irrelevant tangents.

What would be more interesting is if you would post some of your
efforts showing what sort of problems you ran into.  What made
those happen?  What are the contours of the problem you were
trying to solve?  Were those contours too large, or might the
full problem be solvable using a modified approach?  It would be
good to see a discussion of exactly what problems there were and
what sort of approaches might address them.

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Re: printf and time_t Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:27 +0000
  Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-06 11:29 +0200
    Re: printf and time_t James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-06 10:31 -0500
      Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-06 20:05 +0200
        Re: printf and time_t scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 18:16 +0000
          Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-07 05:06 -0800
            Re: printf and time_t "James Russell Kuyper Jr." <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-07 13:08 -0500
              Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-08 09:54 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-08 10:08 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 18:36 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-08 13:05 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:26 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-03 05:38 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t "James Russell Kuyper Jr." <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-10 22:40 -0500
        Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 16:29 -0800
          Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 17:14 -0800
          Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-07 14:01 +0200
            Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 04:28 -0800
              Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-03 22:03 -0800
          Re: printf and time_t scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:45 +0000
            Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 13:28 -0800
              Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-08 01:26 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 16:00 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-08 02:38 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 17:36 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-08 11:01 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t "James Russell Kuyper Jr." <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-08 19:31 -0500
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-09 14:18 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-09 13:49 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 00:17 +0800
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 11:27 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t "James Russell Kuyper Jr." <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-10 22:02 -0500
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-11 13:20 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 04:59 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-11 15:32 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-11 16:34 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-11 18:19 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-11 20:25 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 15:23 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 10:50 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:56 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 22:44 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 10:51 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-12 08:21 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 11:06 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-12 13:26 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 16:06 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-13 08:56 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 00:53 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-13 11:09 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-13 13:45 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-13 14:32 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-13 17:47 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 04:27 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-12 17:57 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-03 17:19 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-03 18:19 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-01 21:05 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t "James Russell Kuyper Jr." <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-13 21:24 -0500
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-14 09:26 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-14 14:53 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-15 08:29 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-14 11:03 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-14 22:19 -0500
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-15 11:02 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-11 11:58 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-12 08:28 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-11 11:51 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-11 23:51 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 22:47 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-12 08:34 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 11:24 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-12 10:34 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-03 07:47 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-03 19:51 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-04 06:22 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-04 16:44 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-04 18:12 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-04 18:48 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-04 18:11 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-04 21:09 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-04 20:42 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-05 12:41 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-05 17:42 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-05 18:38 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-05 23:55 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-05 23:42 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 21:10 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-06 09:51 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-06 04:46 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-06 12:39 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-06 14:47 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-06 13:04 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-08 10:52 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-08 12:18 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-08 04:03 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-08 16:50 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-08 18:55 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-08 19:54 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-08 21:27 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-08 19:59 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-08 21:51 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-08 19:43 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-06 14:06 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-02-07 18:07 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-07 20:32 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-07 22:48 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-07 23:54 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-08 19:21 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-08 23:35 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-09 01:27 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-10 00:14 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-10 13:22 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-09 01:40 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-06 05:08 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-06 14:28 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-06 14:29 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-06 11:21 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-06 20:08 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-06 12:56 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-06 14:35 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Kaz Kylheku <046-301-5902@kylheku.com> - 2026-02-07 17:55 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-07 20:51 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-06 12:27 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 11:05 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-06 02:59 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-06 04:49 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-06 13:05 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-17 23:11 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-06 12:42 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-04 22:48 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-04 22:57 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-04 23:24 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 16:04 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 15:39 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-04 23:52 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-05 12:51 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 11:22 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-06 12:46 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-06 02:25 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-03 14:43 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-02-03 23:06 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-03 15:33 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t "James Russell Kuyper Jr." <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-13 22:17 -0500
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-14 11:10 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-15 06:10 -0500
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-15 04:00 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-15 20:08 -0500
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-15 18:17 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-09 09:25 +0100
                Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-08 11:35 +0100
        Re: printf and time_t James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-06 19:44 -0500
          Re: printf and time_t bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-01-07 01:14 +0000
            Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0200
              Re: printf and time_t bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-01-07 15:54 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-07 18:17 +0200
            Re: printf and time_t "James Russell Kuyper Jr." <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-07 12:45 -0500
              Re: printf and time_t Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:31 +0000
                Re: printf and time_t Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 13:32 -0800
                Re: printf and time_t Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-08 01:29 +0200
                Re: printf and time_t "James Russell Kuyper Jr." <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-01-08 19:16 -0500
            Re: printf and time_t David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-01-08 17:13 +0100

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