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Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge

From	Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge
Date	2026-04-02 22:24 +0300
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On Thu, 2 Apr 2026 19:50:06 +0100
Bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

> On 02/04/2026 18:03, DFS wrote:
> > On 4/2/2026 11:25 AM, Mike Terry wrote:  
> >> On 01/04/2026 22:24, DFS wrote:  
> >>> On 4/1/2026 9:34 AM, Michael S wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>> So, here is the challenge:
> >>>> There are 20 sorts of cookies, 10 of each sort. They are placed
> >>>> in 20 boxes, again, 10 cookies in each boxes. You have to take
> >>>> exactly one cookie from each box, all 20 of different sorts.  
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I say it's impossible (or extremely, extremely rare) to
> >>> accomplish that if you have to:
> >>>
> >>> 1) fill the boxes randomly, and
> >>> 2) make only one random choice from each box
> >>>  
> >>
> >> I think you're misunderstanding the challenge.
> >>
> >> AIUI, you're /given/ the boxes, filled with cookies (randomly or 
> >> otherwise) and your challenge is to provide an algorithm to select
> >> 1 cookie from each box, such that one of each cookie type is
> >> selected.
> >>
> >> The supplied code is some kind of test bench to check your
> >> solution. Your job is to supply the missing solver() function so
> >> that the test bench program is successful.  You do not need to
> >> fill the boxes at all (they are supplied to you to solve), and you
> >> do not need to choose the cookies you select randomly!  (If you
> >> select randomly, you are highly likely to select two cookies of
> >> the same type at some point, so you will fail...)  
> > 
> > 
> > This is a far better explanation than the original, but it's still 
> > confusing.
> > 
> > Let me talk/think it through:
> > 
> > Per Michael's original you have to choose exactly one cookie from
> > each box, and end up with 20 different types of cookie.  That means
> > each box contains at least one of the 20 cookie types (also could
> > be 2+ of the same type).  If I can't choose randomly, I would
> > naively just evaluate each cookie in the box against what I've
> > already chosen, grab one that hasn't been chosen, and move on to
> > the next box.
> > 
> > But I bet that by the 12th to 15th box, it won't have a cookie type
> > that hasn't been chosen.  So there's no way I could get to 20
> > cookie types with one selection from each box.  I would have to
> > start over, maybe begin with a different cookie type than I started
> > with the first time, then hit the wall again, etc.
> > 
> > Does that jibe with your understanding?
> > 
> > The code I wrote initially made sure each box contained at least
> > one of the 20 types, then filled the rest randomly.  
> 
> Hang on, if each box is guaranteed to contain at least one of any
> cookie you're looking for, then it can make it trivial.
> 
> At least, with my poor algorithm, it would always work, since it
> starts by looking for a type A in box 1, box B in box 2, and so on.
> 
> It would go wrong if it got to type F say, and that is only present
> in boxes already picked. Here I start redoing some earlier choices,
> which is where it can go wrong.
> 
> 

Seems like you are trying to solve by exhausting.
If you read my original post, you'd see that I suggest against it and
give an explanation why it is not a good idea.

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  Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2026-04-01 10:02 -0400
    Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-01 17:15 +0300
      Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2026-04-01 10:28 -0400
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  Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-01 15:20 +0100
    Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-01 17:56 +0300
      Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-01 19:50 +0100
        Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2026-04-01 15:56 -0400
          Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-01 23:33 +0100
        Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-04-04 07:43 +0100
          Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-04 11:54 +0100
  Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2026-04-01 15:24 -0400
  Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2026-04-01 17:24 -0400
    Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2026-04-02 16:25 +0100
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        Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-02 22:19 +0300
      Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2026-04-02 13:03 -0400
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        Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-04-02 19:50 +0100
          Re: Cookies in boxes - algorithmic challenge Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-04-02 22:24 +0300
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