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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
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| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Is reallocarray() planned to be standardized? |
| Date | 2026-05-16 12:44 +0000 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <10u9orc$q3k$2@reader1.panix.com> (permalink) |
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In article <10u8742$j0nj$1@dont-email.me>, Kalevi Kolttonen <kalevi@kolttonen.fi> wrote: >Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: >> Funny. I still have Solaris installed on an old hard drive. Last time I >> had to use it was over 20 years ago when I was working with the SPARC. > >We used to run Solaris on UltraSPARC servers to host email services >like Sendmail and Cyrus IMAPD. They were good machines for the time >when amd64 had not yet been invented. They were eventually replaced >by amd64 hardware and Red Hat Enterprise Linux. > >I guess SPARC CPUs are going to die with Solaris. Ironically, SPARC was basically dead before Solaris. Folks in the Solaris kernel team argued strongly for Sun pivoting to focus on x86; they saw the writing on the wall. But Sun leadership saw lots of margin dollars in SPARC on the high-end and wasn't interested. I remember vividly in 1996 or so talking to a sysadmin I knew. They'd just gotten some nice-for-the-time IBM-branded Pentium machines and he'd put Linux on them. I said they were nice, but not as nice as an UltraSPARC. He replied, "true, an Ultra is about twice as fast, but this is one quarter the cost." It hit me in that moment that the proprietary RISC Unix workstation market was doomed; PCs were getting better faster than those machines were, and those companies all relied on high margins to make a profit (read: their equipment was expensive). Also, it was clear that Linux had a huge amount of momentum behind it; Solaris _had_, arguably, been the most important commercial Unix to that point, and it was still technically superior, but Linux was catching up. Quickly. Being so closely tied to a proprietary hardware platform wasn't great. Eventually, Sun retreated from the workstation market (that had made it successful) and pivoted to servers; the kiss of death for a workstation company. As for Solaris, by the time they convinced people to do OpenSolaris, it was too little, too late: Linux was clearly on the rise, people were investing in it, and there was little advantage to shifting to a technology that was still mostly owned by Sun. Perhaps if Larry McVoy's "SourceWare" proposal in 1993 had actually been implemented, the world would be a very different place, but it wasn't. - Dan C.
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Re: Is reallocarray() planned to be standardized? kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-05-18 14:34 +0000
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Re: Is reallocarray() planned to be standardized? kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-05-15 17:28 +0000
Re: Is reallocarray() planned to be standardized? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-15 17:40 +0000
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Re: Is reallocarray() planned to be standardized? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-15 18:28 +0000
Re: Is reallocarray() planned to be standardized? kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-05-15 21:35 +0000
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Re: Is reallocarray() planned to be standardized? cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-16 12:44 +0000
Re: Is reallocarray() planned to be standardized? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-15 23:44 +0200
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