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boltar@caprica.universe writes:
>>>     http://herbsutter.com/2026/04/29/london-meetup/

Ok, I watched this video but meh, it said even C is growing, so merit
doesn't seem to be involved.

>>    -   Modules. (They don't work.)

That's unfortunate.  I hadn't been paying attention but I had the
impression that they were promising.

>>    -   Coroutines. (They're not actually coroutines.)

Yeah true.  More like protothreads.

>  They should have taken a look at how Python does it - the function
> returns an iterator and you call "yield <result>" inside it. Done.

That's generators.  Python coroutines are a mess because they were added
to the language a little bit at a time.  There are even multiple
syntaxes (how unpythonic) for doing using them, generator-style and
async/await.

>>    -   Concepts. (Cool, but most of you won't ever write one.)

I haven't used them in C++, but in Haskell they're called "type classes"
and people write them all the time.  They are important.  Does Ada have
something similar?  In C++ it might be that writing them is done mostly
by library implementers.  But then they help the users by decreasing the
hellishness of templated classes.

>>Apparently GCC will be getting contracts and reflection "soon".
> I can't wait for contracts and reflection in C++! 

Contracts seem like a good thing.  They're important in Ada after all.

Reflection, that I don't know about.  

That said, the video of Herb Sutter's talk showed an audience of old
bald-headed guys, almost like a Lisp conference.  For better or worse,
Rust seems to have all the energy now.

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