X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:184:b0:427:a2bd:c13 with SMTP id s4-20020a05622a018400b00427a2bd0c13mr955617qtw.10.1703638099831; Tue, 26 Dec 2023 16:48:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:e0b:b0:5e3:4fa6:6b91 with SMTP id cp11-20020a05690c0e0b00b005e34fa66b91mr3650856ywb.6.1703638099523; Tue, 26 Dec 2023 16:48:19 -0800 (PST) Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.160.216.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.visual.misc Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2023 16:48:19 -0800 (PST) Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a0b:2fc7:16fe:f894:64da:b23f:49ea:f308; posting-account=RajAEwoAAAB-uIztKqMdlyDTM_ZcmCcf NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a0b:2fc7:16fe:f894:64da:b23f:49ea:f308 User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: The Following S01e15 From: Kristina Caulley Injection-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 00:48:19 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.basic.visual.misc:3323 Jimmy was introduced in the series\u2019 pilot as a friend of Lucas (Chad M= ichael Murray) and Mouth (Lee Norris), who at that point are on the outside= of the \u201Cin\u201D crowd. After also appearing in episode 1.02, we don\= u2019t see Jimmy again until episode 3.15, \u201CJust Watch the Fireworks,\= u201D which sets the stage for what happens in the following hour by focusi= ng on Jimmy\u2019s feelings of isolation and inferiority, as well as his ap= parent hatred for his fellow classmates who either ignore him or torment hi= m. The Following S01e15 DOWNLOAD https://t.co/zujRFcmByC=20 The reason why this synopsis does the episode a disservice is because of al= l that it leaves out: every nuance, every poignant line of dialogue, every = close-up on faces full of emotion, every powerful lesson it imparts. School= shootings are something no one ever wants to experience, but bearing witne= ss to a depiction of one is something I believe could actually be education= al. While it could be argued that exposing someone to something like this c= an plant a seed in one\u2019s head and drive or inspire copycat behaviors, = I would argue that this episode could actually be a deterent. You watch it = and you see the devastating consequences of school shootings and you can\u2= 019t imagine anyone afterward ever following Jimmy\u2019s twisted path. Tru= ly, I often wonder the difference it could make if this hour of television = was required viewing in middle schools and high schools. And I also did an interview with Allison Scagliotti, whose character Abby i= s originally one of the hostages but is let go by Jimmy when she starts to = go into diabetic shock. We as viewers don\u2019t know it at the time, but w= hen she makes her escape, she ends up being the only witness to Keith\u2019= s murder, something that reverberates across the following season. Reflecti= ng on first receiving the script for the school shooting episode, the actre= ss told me, \u201CI was extremely moved by what I read, mostly because the = Jimmy character was someone that could be very real. Who knows how many Jim= mys there have been and still are in schools everywhere? The tragedy of wha= t becomes of him is enough to wake people up, I think.\u201D This episode is never far from my mind, and it was especially stuck in my h= ead following the Parkland school shooting just over three years ago. In th= e wake of that 2018 massacre in Florida, I posted the text of Lucas\u2019 e= nd-of-episode voiceover on my Facebook page. In a 2016 Huffington Post feature on the relevancy of school shooting episo= des, the authors wrote about how Jimmy\u2019s anger \u201Cresonated deeply = with Tree Hill\u2019s residents and the audience.\u201D And the following y= ear, Vulture observed, \u201CIt\u2019s strange now to applaud a high-school= show tackling the issue of a school shooting \u2014 but at the time it air= ed in 2006, and we hadn\u2019t yet been inundated with shows tackling the s= ame subject matter in exploitative ways. This episode spoke to the broad fe= elings around gun violence while also staying deeply personal to the show a= nd its characters.\u201D Added the author, \u201CIt\u2019s hard to watch, b= ut completely moving, even over a decade later.\u201D Immediately after defeating Krang, Shredder appears to fight you. A health-= restoring pizza will drop into the arena so you can get back and HP you mig= ht have lost when fighting Krang.=20 Shredder has the following set of attacks: In 1977, following the events of the previous episode "The Variable", Jack = Shephard (Matthew Fox) and Kate Austen (Evangeline Lilly) witness a young E= loise Hawking (Alice Evans) kill her adult son Daniel Faraday (Jeremy Davie= s) in the Others' camp. As Jack and Kate debate whether they should follow = through with Faraday's plan to detonate a hydrogen bomb in order to change = future events, they are attacked and captured by the younger version of Cha= rles Widmore (David S. Lee). Eloise believes their claim of being from the = future and decides to take Jack's advice to detonate the bomb. They travel = with Richard Alpert (Nestor Carbonell) to a pond, which has an underwater e= ntry to a series of tunnels in which the bomb is stored. The tunnels lie be= neath the site of the Dharma Initiative's barracks. Kate does not want to t= ake part in Jack's plan and leaves. However, an Other refuses to let her go= , prompting an unseen Sayid Jarrah (Naveen Andrews) to shoot the Other. Say= id agrees to Jack's plan, but Kate still refuses and compares Jack to John = Locke (Terry O'Quinn), whom Jack once regarded as crazy. She leaves for the= barracks and the others enter the tunnels. In 2007, following the events of the episode "Dead is Dead," Locke meets wi= th Richard at the Others' camp and tells him that he now has a purpose. Sun= -Hwa Kwon (Yunjin Kim) confronts Richard about the fate of her husband and = the other survivors stranded in the past. Richard grimly informs her that h= e watched them all die. Locke, Richard, and Ben Linus (Michael Emerson) tra= vel to the location where the time-jumping Locke will appear, so that Richa= rd can remove the bullet from his leg and tell him what needs to be done (a= s seen in "Because You Left"). They return to camp, where Locke speaks to t= he Others and tells them that they are going on a trip to see Jacob, from w= hom they take orders but have never met. Locke tells Sun that Jacob will kn= ow how to save their friends. However, he later admits to Ben that his plan= is not to ask Jacob for help, but to kill him. Wow - you're gonna be on the evening news ! That is so cool, congratulation= s. Richard did always seem to have the answers, and now we know it is because = he'd already met alot of the castaways. And - seems to me that Eloise was g= iving the orders, not Richard. She didn't ask Eric and RA to go with her - = she kinda told them to. And 77 RA was following Eloise - not Jack. All you faithful Whatever Happened Happened lovers are cracking me up. 'OPE= RATION ERASE 5 SEASONS OF LOST' I doubt will ever happen. LOL. Sure - I thi= nk something is gonna change, but it's not going to be so drastic as to mak= e the last 5 years not count. ABC sucks for showing what I think they showed on the previews for next wee= k. I won't say what for the peeps who don't like coming attractions, but ma= n - they just might have taken some of the fun out of it. yeah...RA was following Eloise directly...but Jack is the man following thr= ough with Daniel's plan and everyone else is listening to it! So then in th= eory, Richard is following Jack!=20 i watched the coming attractions too and don't remember what you're talking= about! lol I am just expressing my concerns of ALTERING TIME in terms of continuity an= d irrelevancy! The Whatever Happened Happened concept was a perfect way to = get around this. And for the most part, it stays intact. I just worry about= what is going to happen if they mess with it! Like I said, I have complete= faith in the writers....always have even in the DARK times of season 3. Bu= t this is nuts!!!=20 And thanks for congrats on the news!! It should be kinda crazy! We'll be do= ing it live via webcams on SKYPE. Hopefully I don't freeze up on LIVE TV! O= r be so mad at the cliffhanger that I don't want to talk about it! lol Well we had the official LOST Podcast FINALE for the season. And it was a d= arn good one! We won't hear from Damon and Carlton until Comic-Con now...wh= ich they said they have some nice treats planned!=20 Synopsis of what was discussed:=20 Follow the Leader - they discussed Locke and Jack coming into their won. Lo= cke is a very strong and compelling guy in communion with the island. we sh= ould be very disappointed if we don't get more information on his "resurrec= tion" by the end of the season. Jack, after weeks of being a janitor finall= y has his mission. But he doesn't have 50 people following him like in the = olden days....Just Sayid who is up for any excuse to kill people (their hys= terical words, not mine!)=20 They joked about Jacob being a 60 foot tall flaming being and kept the them= e going the whole podcast. That was a good time, since one of the Q&A's ask= ed if Jacob was french and that's why he doesn't have a shower in his cabin= ! LOL They said, it's not in Jacob's best interest to take a shower because= he's a 60 foot flaming man! ahhh good times.=20 They discussed as with every penultimate episode of a season, they like to = get their characters as far apart from each other as possible and see what = happens (and in this case they are separated by TIME too!). Anyway, they al= so mentioned their disappointment in ABC's promos showing Sawyer, Kate and = Juliet's status after going on the sub. But then asked the key question "HO= W" do they get back? Carlton Joked....."magic box???"=20 Okay...so the Q&A's Q: Someone asked the question we've discussed a lot. THE COMPASS. Where did= it come from? How does it get rusty when it's just goin to time travel bac= k to 1954? Will it eventually deteriorate causing a hole in the space-time = continuum?=20 A: They said everything with the compass is intentional. They think of LOST= as a mysterious show with a bit of Magic and Fantasy elements. There is a = theorem out there called an Immobius Loop....which is similar to the Chicke= n and the Egg (which I have brought up on many occassions in comparison tha= nk you very much!!). They said they spent way too many hours in the writer'= s room discussing the compass. But they really dont want to take away from = the mystery of it. They don't want to OVEREXPLAIN Lost on certain things. W= ith the compass...it's just one of those fun things that it has no beginnin= g or end....and the deterioration? They said it's intentional...purposely p= erplexing, but will have no resolution. That's the fun of it apparently! lo= l Well, I can't lie, I did think it was pretty cool. But I thought the deca= ying of the compass would go somewhere! Oh and Damon joked at the end that if Jack succeeds in his mission, the com= pass would be freed from it's eternal loop. And mentioned a scene they shou= ld have written between Kate and Jack. Kate: Why are you doing this? Jack (= seriously): I just have to free that compass! Well it was funnier when Damo= n said it! Q: Ahh yes, the Comic-Con Video. The question was, the video never happened= . But that was Faraday's voice....what is considered canon on the show? A: It is confirmed, the voice in the video is Jeremy Davies. And they said = that the video was made before season 5 ever went into production. At the t= ime they knew that some of their losties would end up in DHARMA times. They= knew that Sawyer's crew would be living there for 3 years. They initially = envisioned Daniel having this discussion with Chang but it isn't the way th= e story panned out. They compared it to J.K. Rowling having complete contro= l of her characters, but there are 400 people working on the story of LOST = over the course of a season and things just didn't work out. Instead, they = sent Daniel to Ann Arbor. This might explain why that scene with Daniel in = the Orchid looked so goofy when he walked down the platform with the crazy = cannister and then ran right back to talk to Chang. It probably wasn't thei= r original intention with the scene. They apologized but also said that in = previous seasons things worked out for them to tie things into the Comic-Co= n events. But with this season, the theme remained alive, but they only con= sider events "ON THE SHOW" as canon.=20 So satisfying or not, there's your answer!=20 Q: When will we know who the good guys and bad guys are on LOST. Which side= do we root for?=20 A: They played a game of good guy/bad guy and named some characters. Hurley= - Good, Kate -Good, Richard -Not sure yet, Frank Lapidus - Good, Sayid - D= epends on the day lol Q: Years ago the producers told us that we didn't have enough information t= o formulate an answer to how the show is going to end. When will we have en= ough information to put it together? A: This is pretty exciting news: By the end of this finale and by the end o= f the season premiere of season 6 we will have all of the building blocks t= o put together the fundementals of what it's all about. We will get a sense= of where they might be going with the story. Cartlon further added jokingl= y...we should be able to really put it together by the last episode of seas= on 6 lol=20 Well my friends...THAT is crazy. Sounds like we may have lots to talk about= on Thursday!! 0aad45d008